#1322 - Reggie Watts

Jul 9, 2019

Reggie Watts is a musician, singer, beatboxer, actor, and comedian. His improvised musical sets are created using only his voice, a keyboard, and a looping machine. He is also currently the announcer and band leader on The Late Late Show with James Corden.

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my guest today is an incredibly talented person brilliant amazing genius character who's also cool as fuck please give it up for my friend mr. Reggie Watts The Joe Rogan Experience Train by day Joe Rogan podcast by

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and we're live that's it hi Reggie yeah the stuff Purple Venom that's what he calls it yeah so his friend calls it and yeah as friends like you know I'm pretty skeptical skeptical about other people's stuff but did you ever hook nail is that a coke nail no fun no I know this won't take long people think that their Coke nails did it take no the real but you don't do Coke I don't do Coke ever you're diabetic Coke Zero I have done I have done it's like Coke light it's like it looks like cookie can snort it feels like ugly doesn't give you high now I have I've tried it I would say honestly maybe four times hmm and I've never it's always just felt like I just took three shots of espresso and I'm not it's not really doesn't do anything for me that I'm like I better get me better invest in that I need to try it one day because I just I need to know what's going on I'm 51 years old how do I know know what kokusai you know I think it's worth I mean if you don't if you

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you know if you don't have a predisposition for being a hyper addictive personality I definitely do but oh but I'm also wise enough to know yeah and I can quit things yeah good stuff got experience you can control yourself but like I actually I was never I was never like I guess I've just never been someone who's like oh shit gotta have that forever like I've never been that way the only thing that I'm reduced to now is just wheat that's it well me too but I also think that it's one of those things if your if your life is healthy if you have a good balance and you're enjoying your time and you're being creative and you have good friends you have fun you're not looking for something to fuck your life up I think many of the times when you're dealing with people that have like severe debilitating addiction to the really just taking over their life there's something else going on almost always just like problems you know relationship problems work problems life problems yeah they're not happy yet there's an emptiness there anything else that wants to be fed or maybe you have a lot of success in your freaking out about the success I think that happens with some celebrities yes

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I think so yeah overstimulation import template and let's do this show yes do it yeah here it is so you kind of the first I used an automated machine the auto have you heard of it no so cool it's like this like little rinder and it's a grinder and it and it fits on a tube that you put an empty rolling thing in there so you like put that in there you got it and then it's like a yeah it's like a clear tube you put in the pre-rolled you know empty whatever joint thing and then and then you put this machine that just goes over attaches magnetically and then you put in your weed and you just press a button and it's like coffee makers like real right there and it fills it up perfectly and then you just pack it by shaking it and twist it and you're done these goddamn Stoners today they're getting too crazy at all I rarely spoke I always make exceptions for stuff like this you ran are all look at it yeah wow that's actually pretty Sleek looking

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yeah it's by banana Brothers I think you know I I smoke pretty regularly but I got high with be real I did his smokebox show like okay I'm gonna be real rat Cypress Hill I was episode catch him how Daryl just I bought it real just like you know you I know nothing about hip hop team Reggie I do not know anything about Cypress Hill I know I know people are always like you got to know about hip-hop I'm like I know shit I know Run DMC you really don't know any hip-hop now I kind of stopped after the Bohemian phase hmm you know like after Tribe Called Quest and De La Sol De La Sol like it just kind of lost me because it didn't turn in I like gangster in the beginning you know because it was something new and you're right what the fuck is this all that's so cool you know but then it kind of morphed into Club hop where it just was all about bitches and cars and all that shit and it was really the lyrics the Beats I loved I thought was cool but like not

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I mean I because I left in 95 95 96 and then I know there's plenty of hip-hop heads up like dude you got check out so you got check out your I know there's shitloads of shit and I maybe I'll go back into that phase but mostly I just like the beats and the production and the lyrics I'm not really I'm not lyrics guy anyways I am a lyrics guy and Naz is definitely my favorite Lyricist because his stuff is so creative like what was that one we did everything backwards to the whole song backwards like he started at the end then what the fuck was that called James can include rewind yeah I mean assuming major look creative yeah it made you look like I have saw that I was like that was actually a moment where I was like how am I gonna my going to start getting back into this shit because yeah because it was intelligent yeah you know what I mean like my thing is like if you're going to be boastful that shit it should be like Muhammad Ali right right right you should be clever yeah clever flare also you can just be right in someone's face but I like that but then when people are like kind of going off about how much

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they have an audition like I don't really care about that well I've analyzed this many times while under the influence and the culture comes from not having something and then once you have something brag about it right like that's like Jay-Z like that's 99 problems he talks about that 99 Problems yeah even I get it I get it but like at the same time if it just sounds like basically the three things that everyone talks about which is like women cars of some sort and money or the things you can buy with money after a while it just all bleeds together it's only that's the same song and I mean it's so dope that you can come from nothing and you can work your way up and you can hustle and you can get stuff going in but like once you get to that place like why not take advantage of that point what about run the jewels I've heard good things about how dense the rapper I've heard good things about goddamn I know I don't know shit man I'm more of like a run the jewels is so creamy and electronic guy I like it yeah let me let me turn you on some run the jewels please I wish we could play on the podcast but

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then we can't do that anymore back when your day yeah it will run your Jewels town but back in the day when you had a like the internet was no one knew what a podcast was you could do all kinds of shit you just play things I mean you still can I mean really live streaming taken down your team monetized you get a strike against your channel if you get three strikes they take your channel down permanently it's all you are you guys YouTube yes okay that's the real problem I choose the real problem I'm I'm bypassing all that very soon what are you doing I'm glad my own live streaming that's all right yeah because that way I just don't have to worry about all that bullshit yeah we think that's where it's probably going to have to go yes but at but at the same time everybody's at YouTube yeah so so the secret is or the question is like how can you what you can do both yeah exactly zero zero alcohol Heineken are you serious yeah I'll try a zero yeah because my problem with alcohol is alcohol

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yeah so yeah they're actually very good they taste like a regular Heineken hmm check what I found out if you see these what is that it's a micro Tech California legal switchblade what yeah what do you stabbing people at a tiny night what you doing right now I don't feel like I've been going on since I saw you like it well I like having them I'm from Montana you always have a knife I'm sorry it's like the greatest tool but it makes it has a button go okay so hold it the opposite way turn it around flip it around yeah and then the button on the top side see there's like a lever no resting here yeah that so this on the back there's a glass breaker okay I'll glass breaker yeah for like if you're in your car you know whatever I needed to break the window Jesus but here's the switch is that really what that's for yes let me see that me crazy so this would break your window yeah hmm

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how many people do you think would break a window with this I bet if you got a lot of people that said there's some old car windows and like like line them up and just fucking yeah because seems like that's like that's like kind of weird how weird like standardized tip for glass Breakers really not crazy so did you get it see but it seems like it's sliding your hand it doesn't it's too small I think if you know if you wedged under if you held it tight in your fist you know with your thumb over I think if you hit at it's more about velocity I think it's you could rather than strength whack it yeah because the way it's designed this is just be like super like precise strike that's what's scaring a glass breaker with a man yeah I know playing the games you ready damn water you have like bottled water and you coming times I have bottled water I have a jumper self you know you can jump yourself know if you have bottled water in your car in La you're basically drinking what is that shit that comes the leaks into your from your plastic PC bpa's I know I'm not used to have glass it's all closed you have glass oh dear now fuck that I don't know I'm

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I mean like people are going to be like bitching because I talk about plastic balls all the time but because we have here yeah it's serious about our solution for that probably get glass and get a water jug yeah you just you just get oh you just get a municipal filter yeah that's it and you get alkalized water mmm temperature whatever and you can just have clean water and you just have tons and tons of vessels I'm sure with someone would be KR would sponsor your something like that what's PKR there they're like a I guess you that canteen company or water carrying like jug company it's how we could have people drink on a mason jars that would be no like old folks oh yeah hell yeah old timey are you kidding yeah I'll be like you know like Grandma's Kitchen cupboard why do people like tracking down a mason jars I think it started with Grandma's what was that band what was that one band know there's that one sort of bluesy rock e-band pretty recently bam

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Jamie's a goddamn wizard how he do it he's how he doing he knows what I'm going to ask before he Google's it he's a wizard he crashed got something's got something some special talent but yeah those guys they dressed like they were from another era right yeah they wore like weird clothes from like the Pioneer Day yeah they look like Time Travelers like from a steam conquer economy kind of I mean I know you're saying like in the beginning yeah you know Fortune Dempster the oh yeah really grunting she's really funny yeah tell her she's I wish I remember her joke but she had a funny joke about Mumford & Sons & mason jars really sweet yeah oh that's good over service I think it was like something to the tune of you know she used mason jars for real not like not like this bullshit oh yeah actually grew up poor I think that was a apologize from wrong that was I mean that's very funny I mean she is a she's so rad I saw her and we're know in Australia Sydney she's doing a podcast with Tom Papa oh

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yeah Kappa sorry how dare you again sorry guys Tom Papa is a brilliant stand-up comedian really really funny guys super super nice guy too and he's the master of bread he bread bread oh shit he makes his own sourdough bread and it is Sensational out that that that's that's that's too much it's my crazy Bill to comes over here he brings a loaf of bread and grass-fed butter oh no you cannot resist this is bread it spread is so good fuck your keto diet if it does include Tom Pappas bread fuck your keto diet does he sell it at a big No-No just made himself there he is and he has a his a television show is doing on a Food Network where he's visiting Bakers he's a brilliant guy and a super nice guy like couldn't be a nicer guy and just loves making bragged he's so silly that's meat is Brad it's so good and it's like I really believe this that if you get food from

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someone who's really cool like it feels different tastes different and Tom's just Thomas just such a nice guy he's so funny and he's so smart like when you're eating his bread like you feel like I'm eating a cool guys bread yeah you know it's like someone who you love Cooks you something if your mom cooks you something it's like wow this is so much it's not just good it's good and it comes from love yeah yeah yeah yeah because the other person who made it to standing right there right having it yeah pretty unique experience especially yeah Brad yeah I think that's the big thing with food to with with cooking you know I never really thought of food as an art form until I started watching No Reservations which is Anthony Bourdain's original show back when he's on the Travel Channel okay and then I was like oh like it duh like I in my head like they were just Cooks I'll go they just cooking food because I cooked food before I used to work at Newport Creamery I made burgers yummy grilled cheese yes sir yeah yeah that's cooking so it's like

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got to put the fucking fries in yeah but watching these chefs create these like really elaborate creative dishes you start going oh oh this is an art form it's just like a weird one like we're it's temporary it doesn't only exist for short window and time but now that we have film of it and now that we have photographs of it like things on Instagram yeah now you start to appreciate that oh it looks amazing to are just part of the thing it's like if you could have like the most incredible steak but it came to you and it looked like the shittiest looking lentil soup I like split pea soup like a split just put just a just the peas though yeah just a bowl of green but it was the most incredible taste yeah but looks weird yes right right right but yeah but they're like they're making things like yeah they're addressing is many senses as possible yeah I liked everything red looks good yeah it looks like - you want me to cross the outside of those little slices yeah on the top of the circle that bread like look at that see how he gets that yeah I know yeah and

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this has to we have to take care of this yes it's all right message it's art to it's like it's a temporary art form we just think of art is something like you know that Buddha statue or something that just lasts forever yeah but some there's some art like a sand castle well it's temporary well you know in a weird way all right in a weird way music is kind of like that if it's not recorded right yeah well no I mean if it is recorded because you only experience it temporarily but it exists as a idea in your head you know that like a like a ghost image of it but then when you listen listen to it when you press play and you listen to it it's happening in real time as soon as you stop it it's no longer it no longer exists so you're still just like in the kind of Shadow memory of it right if you're not interacting with it it doesn't exist yeah yeah wow yeah

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imagine there are some like that you could do is smells right smells of the one sense that doesn't get any love like your eyes people make all these beautiful things right your ears people make beautiful music but you got like perfume cologne and some fucking flowers it's all you got hmm and weird shit like Patchouli we're like settle down settle down so that we know wouldn't said that what you wouldn't it be needs settle down settle down with your instinct this incense sticks Amber Amber sticks Amber smells by the way Miss Pat after she was on she sent me incense did you send it to you too black pussy in this out of the pot to shoot does she make one no she was just talking about crazy incense flavor yeah she she's aware of oh is she saying she uses them or people use I mean the thing is you know that there's a niche market where people making custom incensed with names like that right like they legitimately

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naming them that way because it's a hip thing yeah that's a very specific kind of person right if you have some kind of rug on the floor like some kind of person type rugs it's Miss Pat that she said yeah so what is the top by a cage of Rocket because Teddy some of these once that's butt naked what does the other ones oh yeah Club yeah there you go plac butter ya pussy to do you know Miss Pat no oh my God you gotta meet her she's so funny she's one of the funniest human beings on Earth for sure damn one of the funniest people I've ever met like right up there with Joey Diaz said she's so funny she's ridiculous like you leave a podcast with her and your fucking face hurts someone said that if you get John Witherspoon Joey Diaz and Miss Pat I'll podcast together we would like break the space-time Continuum ha ha ha are you gonna do it fuck yeah I would love to do that but I would just I would I would shut my mouth I wouldn't say a word I just want them to have fun do you know John Witherspoon

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don't know dude he came on with his son his son JD is a comic as well yeah but JD of the coming storm we're talking about his dad and Mike your dad is he's like epic human being like he's so fucking funny and he's like let me get my dad to come and do the podcast like yeah let's do it I would love to have you guys on let's come on so it might actually mind you I don't remember how it came up but anyway he comes in here and it's like the sun is like completely normal Jade he's intelligent he's funny he's like very very like you've you know you're not shocked by him he's a funny smart guy yeah but his dad is from another planet everything he says is funny the way he says it is funny he does not give a fuck how I know that cab dude yeah I know everything yeah he's on like his own Groove he's on this I don't give a fuck times a million Groove and has been doing it look like even his it sounds like laughing like while he's like see this is where I grew up with them like that is crazy he's

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funny like that guy you can make him funny in a movie you know you give me a good movie part he'll do great in it yeah but it will never be able to compare it to him just being him in the moment because you lose that in the moment thing well you know he doesn't have anything planned out yeah he's not reading a fucking script the guy just for three hours is just hilarious about anything about shoes he's hilarious about money he's hilarious about his drink he wants to put his money in his pocket and rub it it's like it's good he's yeah he'll I can hit any any angle anything is fair game it's he's doing a kind of art the art of Being him this is what me and his son were talking about and this is why it relates he's doing an art form but it seems like he's just being himself and he is but he's figured out how to beat himself that is the most hilarious to the most people and it's a matter of whether or not you can plug that into a movie successfully she may be the best thing about him just let him talk yeah just let them talk like fuck your fucking scripts like this guy's got

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yeah you know he's got a thing yes that is an art an art it's like it's just like cooking it's just like any like Just Like Music there's an art to to being a person even yeah for sure yeah right like so why are some girls sexier is it just biology or is there an art to the way the communicate with you like when people were being flirtatious and they're talking to each other there's an art to that yes like a little bit of a dance going on there yes absolutely some people are better at it yeah I mean yeah I mean it's a you know what gets your attention I mean there's so many factors right what it's like also like what you tend to view what's the first queue that generally will set you off whatever that is experienced as you were a kid or you know someone your aunt or whatever it was was really cool and your cousin was a really sexy and those two combination of those two elements are like something that you hit but I will say like yeah I think it's just someone who's when they're

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about themselves they just have an it also depends on what you're looking for too yep but because there's a CO resonance there has to be just like art Just Like Music we're talking about that like do you like it or not right music to you it might be the greatest song of all time to Jamie he's like yeah I could take it or leave it yeah and then you can have a cot you can have an argument about it which is really sweet but no one's ever write the bottom line yeah it's all subjective love Motley Crue you love Motley Crue it's not it's not this is anything wrong with gladly crude example but if you if you're fucking at home by yourself going girls girls you're loving it that that's art like why was that judge I do that with White Snake all the fucking camera dad told the story before but a dude sent me in a white snake is set and I can I use that it's in the office because I had a girlfriend that made me throw it away after I got in a car accident I had a white snake is that Mike all right why don't you make it because she thought I was bad juju she's really into telling me what to do okay she was older than me okay

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and she she's I was packing up all my stuff because of my car was broken you know got I got T-boned and as I'm grabbing all my stuff she's like leave that I believe what she's like leave the White Snake it's like you gotta get over that music I was really I was like yeah it's terrible music she doesn't like the Pixies I kind of shied oh yes he's existed back then I love the I love them too but I also loved Whitesnake there's nothing that people do though where they only like things that make them appear smart or interesting and there's like it's like a hustle like you tell people you really in Indian food and you will you might really be but there's also a thing you're doing like your when you're that person that's only into the cool stuff but like that fucking white snake song is badass that here I go again yeah that's it's awesome they only had a few that were like really good they had that song is fucking banging To This Day Is This Love

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that's a sexy video that was good videos is like one of my favorite videos it's like the coolest even though is 80s and it was like hyper 80s it's one of the few videos to me in my mind that is that had a style that was that kind of approach is timeless really yeah in a way it's good as a sweet the sincere the sincerity of it I mean that video sexy with Tawny Kitaen and and and like her moving like around the bed or whatever it was classy it was it was like sexy is very adult kind of like really watch it shit but she looks amazing and and I love him just leaning on the wall like that mean it's thick come on a brick wall he's like mr. cool guy it's done in a way but it's just on the right side of me still thinking that it's fucking great it's great art Direction it's promoting ridiculous interactions yeah it was a problem

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promoting a ridiculous relationship just fucking talk what is all this drama I mean that shit right this minute he's very serious about what he's singing he's like a better look and Luke from General Hospital remember Luke and Laura yeah that's what that guy is like a better look in Luke that's so hilarious his hair is preposterous I know everybody look are is just like off the truck I mean imagine if you had a friend that just had hair like that like hey let's go let's go hit the gym he's like hey man you want to go go he's got like a good some a gallon of hair spray that shit I mean primped out that's just I mean back then that's that's the only reason that's white hair bro yeah you have the solution to that yeah yeah your hair you just it's fantastic you don't have to do anything yeah exactly yeah it's a totally lazy chaos it's lazy yeah it's chaos but at the same time like I but there's no work involved in that as is a beautiful chaos

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as opposed to like yeah you know you got one of them picks and you're spraying picks and spring oh yeah his hair that big oh I know there's a lot of work involved there that's a shit ton of hair sprays the lady offset it's just to keep ya constantly checking symmetry I mean that the guitar the band The like Whitesnake the band wants some it was like it was the supergroup of hard rock like like it or metal I guess you can kind of It kind of bleeds into that like classic metal just put a few of those supergroups I just don't freak me out man I'm like get off the car that's what are you doing to the car ladies like she doesn't she just doesn't care she's rude she's doing cartwheels wow look how sincere he is that's I mean man he's really serious about what he's singing about look and he's got three synth players in a row by the way yeah look at that yeah how what is that right that's correct kind of Hardcore I wish we could play this because it's so wonderful I do love

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Adia I mean like the hair color combination in the car I mean you know what this is good this is what happened when the War on Drugs had a brief Victory that's what happened that you're talking about the band for a second damn you are talking about against the English the times okay here you take the time to clean Jimi Hendrix in this is that the absence of drugs like this is music created on this mat Oak this is probably yeah this is definitely maybe a little our heads every now and then but it's not created by Coke yeah it's like high-end party my mom you know like these guys are living like the high-end party shit sure I guess that's I guess that's where they're coming from but I mean to me that's why I like you know someone described the NS tends the the Classic Stage monitors or sorry it studio monitors like when you're switching between different types of know what that is can you show me what that looks like be right now you and Jamie on the same frequency he's an audio guy yeah oh yeah

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yeah well they're like a they're like this classic mixing and think that like our atone and like if they're just like speaker systems that have kind of become standards to a certain degree yeah and so the weird thing about in as tens it's like in the 80s when they were using them I believe that the right name for it but went in the 80s when they were using them it was really had so much harsh high-end it was so crispy sounding and they said it was because of yeah it's because of coke usage and Coke usage like creates it basically brains tend to favor different sound frequencies under the influence of different drugs and with Coke they like that high-end crispy Sizzle that was like hitting all the time and that was all Amplified so then when you hear 80s music it tends to be it's mixed not all of it but a great deal of it is mixed with a lot of like upper-mid trouble Miss crispiness that's kind of a that totally makes sense that's what you know sometimes albums need to be remastered

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wow but but that speaker is responsible that's what I this is what I heard some this is second-hand information but I believe suspicion that make sense to you right it does totally make sense to me I mean it's one of those subtleties that you may never think about but then when you you hear about it and you learn about it it blows open a whole new way of thinking about things well I don't know this but that's what everybody's always said about the the dead and LSD exactly yeah that if you like the people that don't get the dead and I'm guilty of being one of those people yeah I'm not a huge fan but I respect them it's because you haven't listened on LSD apparently according to people that I know you listen to the dead on LSD and you're like oh my God I get it I see I see interesting it's LSD music yeah yeah totally my cousin used to follow them around really okay filed it down for kind of want to say a couple of years where she was on tour they would sell like bacon and eggs out of the car shows that stall

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hippie like a real super legit hippie that's kind of sick but um that's rare so I got to talk to her about like the culture everyone's on acid they're all doing so many of whom are doing a stram's I say every one of them but it's like it's probably half yes crazy for a concert imagine going to a concert in half the people are doing mushrooms like now percent a hundred percent of the time half of the I don't know if I'm that if you're some Pro if you yell at me right now going it's not have a number I'm sorry I'm just guessing I think it's a it's it's a psychedelic inspired music that once you're under that psychedelic apparently it makes sense and this is not me talking from personal experience yeah I mean it could be one of those things where you know there's like a photo that's slightly out of focus and then if you like bring in another or now better get like a code it's like you get a picture of something and you're like I don't care I can't tell what it is abstract and then you put you at this other layer on and it completes it and you're like oh that's what it is

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in a way like I can imagine that being true but I can also say once you've experienced music that really ignites your imagination if you hear music that sounds amazing on LSD it should it's also sound amazing to you personally not on it how you can tell that it would be even more amazing if you were on LSD but it already sounds great it's like to me qualities like it exists in all states so like it's just the anyways that's kind of how I look at it it's an interesting perspective but you would think definitely the people see things differently when the under when they're under the influence of sure things absolutely you you don't think there could be like a Tipping Point oh I think you're right no and to your point yes I do think that there is music where you're like I don't know man and then you listen to it on mushrooms or whatever and you're like oh fuck this is dope I remember the first no doesn't a Whole Lotta Love when I was

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I yeah and you know that period there's a period in the middle of the song where it's all just symbols and fuck music it's like ah ah ah oh yeah yeah yeah yes God damn I love that song but when you listen that Songhai you like these guys were wild oh yeah Miss is the 1970s right and these guys made a song where it started off great and then for a minute and a half it was just moans and fuck sounds Shake It For Me Baby I Want To Be Your Back Door Man hey ho what I was looking up this LSD okay for that thing so they're sound engineer who went under the name bear which if you know them but the Grateful Dead they use the Bears he was one of the only scientist when LSD was outlawed I could still make it

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wow that was the sound guy yeah oh Jesus Christ made it over 5 million doses but in between 65 and 67 it says wow she's they had their own personal guy and he was the one that making the sounds it's that guy still alive maybe we'll put him in jail for the rest yeah so they were strictly formatted for LSD right here says he died in a car oh in Australia that's probably on the wrong side of the road because he was on acid it's just like bonds well don't get mad don't fuck he's my hero I just cry and Joe but that's amazing so they have their own built-in chemist God I must have been a very good time that's so cool I love that because that's responsible I think that's the responsible thing to do so just lie here on chemist that way you're not buying any nonsense yeah you're getting it from a guy who's a chemist yeah this is your person that personally makes this stuff for you you know where it comes from it's just a matter how many people got busted at those concerts the feds are the DEA of a Crackdown those

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when I work I worked you said he works security at like a great word yeah I did too for a summer and one of the concerts we did was for Phil Lesh he's the bass player of the Grateful Dead in my job for that day was to walk around the parking lot and they would just yell me and my buddy were 19 years old six up six up the thought we were going to arrest everyone and they would try to give us the goo balls which have a bunch of drugs in them already to sort of doses so we leave everybody alone what's a goofball it's like a popcorn ball but from what I was told I've never had one bunch of psychedelics all sorts of shit oh this thing that's in it yeah just like a thing you would eat my cheese that's what I do never heard of the these know what you were eating yeah he just took it just like this gets you high - the first thing to try to stop the first guy to stumble on mushrooms just want what the fuck like mushrooms had to have been like relearned at some point in time they're like how to be some people that lived in an environment where there was no mushrooms where people didn't get them and then someone found him somewhere but they didn't have any personal

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knowledge of what it was and tried it and eat it and tripped that had to happen yeah I mean I think you know it could it could also be like hey I'm forging for blah blah blahs and because arguably they would say mushrooms are around like way way way some people you know not so scientific perhaps I don't know or maybe scientific have surmise that maybe Consciousness or self-awareness came from thus our species running into some kind of a psychedelic event yeah which caused like this hyper self-awareness Loop or whatever and then you know why that one's nerves a lot of attention because people are so resistant to it like really rational intelligent people are so resistant to it and it's almost a resistant to what to that concept except that maybe our Consciousness was somehow influenced by psychedelic but to a man almost to a man all the while shouldn't say that even over over generalizing but many of those people have not had psychedelic experiences that dismiss him so readily that's true the people that have had some

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Doug experiences that tend to be skeptical or more rational they wouldn't they're not going to have a definitive position on it they're going to go well hmm yeah right something to consider it's more measured yeah like in this the hardliners you know the hardliners on both sides the hardliners definitely believe that happened in the hardliners who believe that it that they don't have any positive effects whatsoever yeah yeah totally both almost equally foolish exactly yeah yeah I mean that's that's what we're experiencing right now but at least the people that have experienced it they know what they're talking about the people that haven't experienced it and don't think it's worth trying like all right right like how do you know yeah I know all these people are saying that it's amazing and it might be this literally the source of religion itself some people when they've had it they have these complete Life Changes where they just rethink things and want to be kinder to people in nicer to people and want to just have more of a sense of community yeah and then you're just people dismissed that but yet they'll take yoga seriously and meditation seriously and they'll go to a therapist all the time and maybe they'll even get on antidepressants maybe get a little bit of Xanax I'm having a

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anxiety issues Reggie Watts and then they're scared of mushrooms it's weird interesting yeah I mean I get I get it and I I don't know oh I get it but it's a flaw yeah it is a flat I mean it just I guess if your job is to take in as many angles as possible to a problem or a situation or concern or whatever way all of the things about all of it yeah and then come up with a solution based off of that but in this isn't even encouraging anyone to do it but this is just saying to dismiss it as being not important when you've never done it is nonsense yeah that's all I'm saying that's why I'm saying it's like I'm not saying you should do it I don't think it I know a lot of people that birth to grave have done no psychedelics and they're great and they're wonderful people and have a great life and they had a wonderful experience it's not a prerequisite it's not a necessary thing no but if you haven't had it might want to shut the fuck up yeah if you're speaking on the issue of yeah of course well the research

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say oh you're going to let the research show you this with experience and we talked about the research five dried grams in silent Darkness as Terence McKenna would describe and prescribed yeah do that oh my gosh do that and then we'll talk yeah just have one quick DMT trip then we'll talk because there's no way that I think it would be difficult I'm sure there's someone who has done psychedelics and has and still says no sure yeah yeah but I would say that most people they would understand it at least maybe they didn't have a great time but they would at least understand the power of that yeah errands I think some people have the burden of intelligence and what I mean by that is that they're really smart and they see a lot of people around them that are silly and they experienced that so often that they get weary and they get they get you know they sort of get rigid in their belief that their opinions are correct because they dismiss most of the people that are around them mmm-hmm

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around a bunch of dummies if you're really smart guy we're smart girl it's hard it's hard to maintain a good perception of what things are and what things aren't when you're the smartest person in the room kind of never want to be the smartest person in the room yeah and also yes and also believing that you are yet away excludes you from including other people who are also smarter than everybody in the room well Sonny men maybe not even smarter which is but I know you're saying it by an ideology their perspective isn't dimmed right yeah yes they see things clearly which is I think one of the most underrated forms of intelligence like there's all this intelligence in solving mathematical problems yeah right social intelligence but there's there's there's a bunch of different kinds of intelligence absolutely able to see through the bullshit is isn't intelligence and some people just don't have it yeah no absolutely and I think that you know at the same time wanting to help someone see that angle is also an important thing so if you're like a if you're someone who's like oh shit

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like let's say it's this maybe your maybe you're trained in tactical awareness right and you just have a different way of being in a room where you sit torque about all that stuff and the situation arises where like potentially something dangerous could happen or whatever then being able to explain that idea and that type of awareness so that someone can see that is also possible like sharing it they may not get it to the extent that you do but they at least you've included in the in their Viewpoint yeah maybe well people that are soldiers they do have a weird women or in room since my friend Andy stump he's always sneaking up on me so as you got no situational awareness yeah yeah like we're in a crowd like what am I supposed to just kindly on 360 looking for danger I mean yeah that's what he's saying yeah that is what I'm saying so but that's because he's seal you know yeah how they look at their

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things whole lot difference how you stay alive exactly yeah I think one of the things is super important for people to recognize and helps them open their minds up to other opinions is that even if they favor themselves very highly the that competitive thing of comparing your intellect and you reason to other people it's very limiting you can stand instead of worrying about yourself you're smart just be smart yeah but he doesn't appreciate other intelligences if it just just get into talking to them this isn't that's my thoughts on it instead of being competitive with them get into trying to find out how they work because there's a lot of different humans on this planet and we have this egocentric position almost everybody does and that there are at least better at one thing than other people are are they know some more about one thing that other people do and it's a weird competitive thing that people get involved with its from it's stupid like you should recognize that it's awesome to have cool people around you that are like really smart and interested in weird shit and the intelligent and inspiring you almost Envy

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their creativity those are massively important people to have in your life but when people get they feel weird about comparing themselves to the other person because they come up unfavorably insecurity exactly that's why she see that with a lot of guys guys puff up chest and start you know comparing like how much their house is cause like she like literally doing stuff that you're like oh we're still doing this like tipped into my mind am I oh shit you guys aren't aware of it like a way that I but anyways yeah that kind of thing yeah you guys are doing some 1990 shit here yeah cuz it's like yeah I know because like either they're like doing an act yeah you know which I'm always hoping and I'm always hoping that's why there's disbelief when it really is what it is I'm like oh shit oh that's best for real that's actually the thing weird right yeah it is a little it's a little weird I mean some people have a lack of cool people around them to that's a real problem yeah he's stuck in a it's like a good tomato plant is

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I'm going to grow in the fucking Sonora Desert all right there's no nutrients there it's too bright it's not the sun's too hot it's not the right climate yeah right yes if you're stuck in some fucking shithole City and it's just your whole neighborhood's fill with dummies and there's no prospects and as fucking lead in the water yet Flint Michigan water you're drinking they're still haven't fixed that know people have to drink bottled water in Flint Michigan in 2019 yep like how would that do they not have how did they let that ever get to that point like at all the things you need well what do we need to stay alive number one water okay let's ignore that Let's ignore that in work on the cracks in the streets Let's ignore that and have new traffic lights that have cameras on them to bust you so we can get more Revenue let's make sure we hire Parkington what about the water we can get to that we'll get to that water yeah well it's my new phrase for you know our situation cuz

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them because the current version of capitalism this is capitalism I don't even well know enough about economics I mean I it's not really it's more just like a philosophical right idea of capitalism with regulation so that you make sure that there's no pollution you make sure that pu yes don't correlate with environmental disasters course and are we also going on the fucking momentum of decisions that were made a long time ago like a lot of this stuff like a lot of these mines that pollute everywhere pollute environments where they are yeah they kind of made those when environment where my environmental laws were different right yeah for sure I mean environmentalism was it wasn't really a thing until like the mid nineteen hundreds I guess so like like Roosevelt like was like a huge like environmental hmm groovy dude but the idea of preserving swaths of land and like considering the environment when growing an economy

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continuously yeah like that just that just stopped like there's like some national parks stuff and maybe some things password like ozone some lead stuff some Mercury stuff you know kind of Common Sense really hardcore shit that should definitely like no-brainers those have been done but anything else making sure that that balance is there as the economy grows just doesn't exist hmm just the way capitalism is right now it's like it doesn't that's not considered a value

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there's the more in fact that more scarce it becomes the higher in value it is so it's so it's in its own best interest to continue to grow and grow and grow until it can't grow any more tears right now man so that so that's why I decisions like that are made in my in my mind while decisions that impact the Wilderness and impact in the environment like did you ever see that movie Gasland no great documentary on fracking Odo wow really crazy what is the director Sam Josh Fox Rollin No he sure has a different guy bro no there's no way no it's a different guy but it's an amazing documentary and Josh Fox I did I got it Josh Fox it's really good really really good documentary and who is job rocks he's a guy who made the film yeah he and he was inspired by personal experience with wasn't it do you remember the actual Story Jamie like personal

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variants with some pollutants or something like that in the river

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but got a new anyway made this amazing documentary and watching people dismiss some of the stuff than documentary was so so surreal oh yeah there were lighting their tap water on fire and I don't know if you saw that but I did see that yeah and that's the crazy people literally were saying you could do that before the fracking that's not it's not because of the fracking wow people were saying that like okay let's assume that's true let's just get crazy assume that's true they're fucking water is on fire that's the last shit that should be on fire is this shit they used to put out fire if your goddamn water's on fire do you know how much shit has to be in your water for it to be on fire okay what's going on here and why are you so sure that this didn't come from fracking and that you could always let your water on fire and now you're telling us yeah get use it and make videos about this before before there was a frakking thing yes show you a video that has the sea are you sure interesting are you really sure that there's a view tested the water you'll fucking scientist you sitting over there with a lab coat and a fucking check sheet yeah I'm sure that the the toxin levels are

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back to the same before and after fracking no you're not but why are you so interested there's a thing that people do with their like really interested in the interests of big business and they want to like they guess and regular people who don't even have a financial stake in that business will make up excuses for the business I know it's crazy yeah what is that it's fear mmm just fear of losing jobs like people like losing jobs are losing the thing that keeps their their bills paid tossled like that No Nonsense right wing mindset is like a no-nonsense right-wing mine said all these fucking Tree Huggers goddamn tree huggers oh you can't stop us from making a good living you want those people to be poor want those people to you ever see the look on a map or coal miners face yeah and I mean there's that thing that they do yes and no nonsense so they want to go with anything that's like good for the economy but bad for the environment which is crazy it's because you never father you have to factor in the other the additional costs how much it's going to cost to fix what you did and if you ever can fix what you did and if you

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can't fix what you did to the environment how much should that cost because if you can if you decide like hey I'm going to pull copper out of this fucking hole in the ground but it might kill a million salmon like you imagine how much a million salmon would be worth you're going to kill a whole population of Salmon how much is that worth I'll give you ruined fishing for all the people that want to come to this one Salmon River yeah you kill a million fish like how much is that worth that's that should be worth a billion dollars yeah you should get fined a billion dollars if not more yeah you can't even fix that that's what I'm that's what I'm saying that's that's what that value that it has no value well he's it's also it's ours like when now poisoning is our stuff I know that's what I mean it's like the Earth it's just the worst because it's like it does not it's just a not it's not a part of the equation for growing the economy that's like and I know there's gonna be people listening that are like just know about the shit hard crime just approaching it from like an over kind of philosophical energetic Viewpoint right right well we in hippies yeah we're being like kind of

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it of course you know the fuck were saying we're still answers so have you ever seen some of the image of the mining that they do the images of the mining they do in Northern Canada like Northern Alberta no dude it's like some hellscape shit it's crazy it's like there's a giant industry of oil mining up there and yeah all kinds of mining yeah and Northern Canada a lot of folks that go up there and they do shifts but I mean you're talking unbelievably brutally ruthlessly cold occasionally people get jacked by bears yeah that like really laughter they live in their living with monsters just outside the gates some fucking Nights Watch type deal with a trying to suck oil out of the ground and they mean there's so much of it up there and it's such a big part of the economy that you have these giant like aerial views of these this these places that are just fucks Ville

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wow man here's one of them the one I saw was much more horrific because it involved a lake so what does it say photos famed photographer Alex McLean's new photo of Canada's oil sands are shocking yeah I mean it's creepy it's I mean but there was nothing there anyway the idea is like hey if it's just flat like that or it's ugly because we have holes in oils coming out of the hole who gives a shit no one's up here right I get it I get that mindset we got jobs everyone has jobs and it's true it's a great job to have they make a lot of money you meet those dudes that come to a lot of shows when you do in Canada yeah they have a name for him look really rich oil worker yeah it's Royal it's real Rich oil worker fellows yeah that's the nickname they're drilling these giant that's one that I saw and see the water all fucked up it's all filled with oil and shit my lords yeah that's a that's a water man the water's fine wow yeah it's it's it's funny all of the

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the issues that all of the imbalances are completely solvable there's like there is no deficit we don't have a deficit mmm and what it would take to just make good decisions that have make life really nice for most people on the planet I think a lot of managing has to be done because a lot of stuff that has unintended consequences and moving pieces affect all the moving pieces around them of course I think that's one of the things that people are really bad at predicting this why I was saying like yeah yeah you know how much is it worth to be able to get copper out of a hole in the ground it's going to poison a river and kill a bunch of fish how much is that worth yeah it's like these people have this sense that

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like you make one decision that only affects that thing but it doesn't affects a lot of things that are connected to that thing yeah it also affects the way people feel if you do some shitty like kill a million fish people get bummed out like that's real it affects the way they interact with other people yeah you know when you read something really fucked up on the news like God damn it until you leave your house like that you leave your house like God damn it yeah two people that have that goddamn it and then they they get upset at each other for something they wouldn't before yeah because they're just thinking is a bunch of pedophiles out there and a bunch of monsters and a bunch of murderers and a bunch of people pouring oil into the ocean yeah it's a bummer changes when people do fucked up things it changes how we feel about people a hundred percent and I don't know I get

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I don't know it's I try to get that to get overwhelmed by those things but you know it's like really the best thing at least in my life that I try to do is make friends with as many technologists and designers and people of that ilk to be able to at least be a part of the conversation because they're at the they're like that the head of the wave there's there's nothing really in front of them they're just on that like you know whatever bleeding edge or whatever but it's just like that the place where chaos is being ordered and like the decisions are being made which waves were going to do that and if you can have good conversations with people like that you can kind of I believe you can kind of help steer things at least technologically to allocate funds to different portions of technology that are should be more prioritize than they are hmm like like just figuring out things like accumulating water out of out of the air like more of that should be used or reducing carbon emissions all the various things you can do for that

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you know try to close that gap between the ultra Ultra Ultra Ultra rich and and the poor it's like everyone can still be super happy if everyone everyone had access to be able to level up to a point that's ridiculous that can still happen but not at the levels that they are boys 9 interesting that the Instinct that people have to resist that idea the poor people shouldn't be somehow or another we should engineer way to have less poor people that we should consider it as a problem people get really resistant to that right you start thinking oh no what do you want to do you want to take my fucking money and give it to someone else knows yeah taking my money fucking socialists take my money yeah it's like well he didn't work for it so he didn't find the right way to work it out of the system I don't I think the earlier I'm sorry I don't think they're right I don't think they're wrong about the whole concept of not giving people money doesn't solve a problem no it doesn't solve problem but recognizing that it's a problem in engineering it so that we have a better Society where more people

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doing good that's great for everybody only it's great for the economy it's weird caste system thing where people who are really poor you almost want him to stay really poor yeah you don't want to like I don't get it it's weird I don't get it I'm like I cuz I feel uncomfortable if I'm in a room full of people and I feel like someone's being kind of just looked over consistently yeah that's the person I'm going to engage with the most well you're a great guy that's awesome but it's the you are that mean that's a good way of looking at it I mean because it's it and it also has just like honorable thanks but it's but it's also just a practical thing right I mean I mean if you're sensitive to this a if that's part of your value system is that I feel like you know not everybody should be doing this or this or that or that but everybody's entitled to be recognized and respected for that so that's kind of a cool place to operate from but I guess I was relating to economically yeah if more people are doing well then you then you have a very productive Society right there no drags on it like there's a lot dragging this this economy sure it's just like

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yeah crime and poverty is getting become drug addicts yeah and a lot of drug addicts come from abuse yeah a lot of abuse comes from poverty there's a lot of those factors that play in there that make us a week or country but I still feel like if you really patriotic you'd want to fix all of the impoverished neighborhoods yes if we're a team the team is stronger When there's less losers right well thank you are not losing in life well people are losing because they're stuck in a spot where they can almost never get out by the time they're 18 inverted been in jail twice and they're kind of programmed by their environment to be hostile because the world around you is Harsh and nasty and doesn't give a fuck about you well you have to adapt to survive I mean that's how people are able to kill people in war people have been a remarkable ability to adapt yeah but the idea that they should be able to figure that out when you didn't have that's crazy that's crazy it's such a bad hand you have the worst hand of cards ever yeah and they're us the we're all in the team like if you really say you're American I'm American

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a fucking support this country this country is everybody man yeah everybody everybody forgets legal safe just for convenience sake let's leave out illegals yep and only say the poor people that were born here that are registered United States citizens we got work to do oh yeah we got work to do it's it's it's just it's saying to me I mean I see it and I'm like fuck man that shouldn't be a thing but I see why yeah it's like you're talking about there's this weird biological human instinct to create a tiered system of society because that's the way you control societies like creating a transmission looks like a social transmission and like that is a weird thing we're looking at yeah because it's like that way you can manipulate you can like switch gears and you can play all you can play them off of one another mmm and you know and I think like some conspiracy thinking shit they're probably just went deep Mike was he right yeah these Riders it convenient is it could just

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in the people want to keep its crabs in a bucket you know that expression yes crabs never get out of the bucket is the other crabs grab and drag them down yeah sure yeah it's I mean it's yeah it's predicting human behavior you know to a certain extent and a lot of the leftover monkey stuff yeah man it's the it's not it's just a still here yeah so you're and it's fucking shit up that's what we also needed it just a hundred years ago totally yeah yeah it was people were doing duels when they were the president was doing dual a couple hundred years ago yeah you're right it is so recent you're right yeah every Barrack shit man shoot each other with little mini muskets in the fucking Street Front everybody and you were the president is that true was the president that got a duel this is true right I think you're right that up is Andrew Jackson got in like over a hundred doors I think but that's like what duels were like that dual typed it was really just like a challenge to see if you would show up really and then like is that just a few miles I really like always like someone died if shoot anybody he did but look one person oh okay

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they didn't crazy story about it they don't aim at each other that's right that's right I heard that there's like you kind of like aim near them reeling something like that yeah and that was a way to concede and wonder why he got shot I think in the chest but he was such a badass he's stayed he like put his hand over it and held it and stuff because his gun jammed when he was supposed to fire so the other guy got him and then he fixed his gun shot the guy in the head and that guy ended up I'm pretty sure that's other stuff yeah I like the one guy killed town she the you have a real motivation to kill guy when it shoots in the chest that shit maybe you're like oh yeah eliminate threat now this becomes real for the guy just has to stand there I can't run away no proof is that you have to stand there little dude shoot you that's part of the deal right I don't yeah but you have to turn around oh my God

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can't be like I win bitch and just right I'm out of here you have to kind of stand there yes I got named Charles Dickinson not the writer but a horse a rival horse breeder and here's the account of their oh my God OK here it goes on May 30th 1806 Jackson and Dickinson met at Harrison's Mills on the Red River in Logan Kentucky at the first signal from their seconds Dickinson fire Jackson received Dickinson's first bullet in the chest next to his heart Jackson put his hand over the wound to staunch the flow of blood and stayed standing long enough to fire his gun Dickinson seconds claim that Jackson's first shot misfired which would have meant that the world was over but in a breach of etiquette Jackson re cock the gun and shot again this time killing his opponent although Jackson recovered he suffered chronic pain from the wound for the remainder of his life damn

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Jackson was not prosecuted for murder and they duel had very little effect on a successful campaign for the presidency in 1829 many American men in the early 1800s particularly in the South View dueling as a time-honored tradition wow that was just a couple hundred years ago we have barbarians and like well sometimes you just got to do it that is a time-honored tradition two hundred years ago people were so goddamn crazy that you could shoot someone in the fucking face in a duel a street fight and then run for president and win yeah it's consent the consensual I mean there are versions of that now but amazing but ya gotta his divorce rate raised more of a scandal than him killing that guy wow how's that possible wow I mean again priorities different societies yeah what it was gossip like back then like gossip magazines and have like like hand printed newspaper with gossip and at the don't hand out

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yeah what would I why would his divorce become a big deal I don't that the printing press back then right oh yeah for sure yeah they are yeah depending Chris the United States got it there's an 1856 now um like everyone had to buy into it people are so goofy the just a couple hundred years ago there were so goofy I mean that's one of the best examples of like a difference in a shift in culture imagine hearing that today imagine hearing that we had slid so far down to Trump and Putin we're engaging in a duel and they're going to go back to back and Trauma cheated and shot them and we were yeah I wonder who would cheat who will have that habit of Trump trump took a bullet in it but his gun misfire then he re cocked it and fire again that would be Trump think that's what but that's what he did that's what Jackson did Michael Jackson

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yeah the okay so he married Rachel Jackson who this is part of the Dual because the guy who killed Dickinson had publicly called her a bigamist because she married Jack said not knowing her first husband had fought not finalized the divorce or something like that so that was a bigger Scandal that he was married to some already married woman oh I got outed so he's like fuck you might kill you oh my goodness wow so he challenged him to a duel because of that Jackson sounds him to a duel ya that an arena good horse Betty said oh my God horse bet you can't cheat on horse betting yeah that's those are two big things man don't say a man's wife is a bigamist and you don't say that like that's what they're shooting people over fucking horse bets shit yeah those are Barbarian people

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and thus our ancestors just 200 years ago this is like very civil civil Barbarian Isabel barbaric - yeah like what we're barbarous what their rules well that's one of the want more hilarious stories of the Revolutionary War right the way the British soldiers dressed was so silly they literally put a Target on their fucking chest they made their vitals lighter it may look if you you should dance you know it's like you can see if you could see things clearly it makes a much more viable Target yes period yeah and you talking about people that didn't have any sights on their guns right in terms of Optics obviously they had like a little machine sites will metal sides but the way these guys walk towards them especially the ones with the x's on the chest as shit is so ridiculous they're walking bull's-eyes is the dumbest thing wow and the only thing is it makes sense to me that they had just had it easy for too long not if not even easy but they were in control for too long they got they got a little silly yeah

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how barbaric people can be really thing about fashion well that's the weirdest fashion right like that that was what they used for wartime like this is really like professionals yeah you know I mean like assist soldiers looked a little bit more like hey guys were professional soldiers and we're doesn't look like good clothes for fucking people up in know it looks cool yeah but what a weird outfit right that military weird how much hand-to-hand combat where they're doing because it wasn't a lot of sordo just jerking each other off that's all they did they just got in the woods and because if they knew any Jiu-Jitsu they call it be great if someone could choke everyone out with that with those outfits yeah well it's just I bet that clothing doesn't move good too I mean I'm just guessing but I think they're fucking cloth has probably dog shit back then yeah for real stiff hard to move around and it's just a weird outfits not like something you would if you had a run through the woods and fire a gun you want to wear with like soldiers wear it today

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I want to be able to blend in but it's just so strange that that wasn't even a concern back then they have knee-high leggings yeah weird shoes wars were more like chess like every like the soldiers and all the different rank-and-file they're all like pieces on a chessboard so it's all about strategy you know it's like we'll line our men up this way and we'll do this and blah blah blah blah it's more like that's how battles were being organized is like chess games you want to know how before I got gorilla right right right well was gorilla first and then it became so that's true yeah because it was like yeah Mongol days there were light and people on fire and he said that had a bolts Yeah by any means necessary wore those shoes did not have tread they had invented tread on shoes yet that's how I feed people are yes they had leather shoes so the souls were Leather So they were scuffed up but there was no tread but you some soldiers like figured out how they wrapped you know I sound cool leather and wrapped layers you know around the foot so it's great something action yeah because if you think like you

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go trail running shoe and if you ever wear like like a Solomon speed cross trailing she loves us yeah they're great they have these big divots in the bottom you can really dig into the dirt with those things yeah if you had to compare yourself running up a hill and cowboy boots that have the flat leather smooth slippery Surface versus you would fall on your fucking face yeah there's no way you'd have any confidence yeah nothing but those Solomon's you just dig in and go it gives you a totally false perception of reality I have those Vibram FiveFingers running shoes oh yeah yeah and I run in the trail ones which have like a good amount of tread in it but one day I tried to run in the ones that aren't Trail ones they're they're basically just for the gym and it's super thin there was no tread at all I was Fallin on my fucking face my legs would just go whoops to look out for my going up hills your legs just go whoopsies no Fred no tread at all it just slippery I can imagine that you need like if you run it up a stiff hell you need

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divots you know you need something that's gonna help you yeah they're even have that background they just had leather you find Tread I sort of found a shoe I think it says it was from the Revolutionary War but it doesn't show the tread is just too fucking old piece of leather that yeah we're a team don't tread on me there that was their shoes back then bullshit ass shoes but the bottom was just fucking leather I mean when they figured out like Vibram leather soles you know I mean rubber soles with the figured out how to get those like thick Dion trucks yeah those are those are clogs well basically this part of that touch technology yeah wouldn't use fuck that look at those things wow dude this is a couple hundred years ago people would just take animal skin off and chop it up and put it on their body that's how people stayed alive like how they figured out wood and leather wonder who the first fucking

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key was to figure out how skin an animal and where its skin you don't have to be like in the monkey days right now it feels like it'd be a couple Generations away from the monkey maybe don't you think maybe it was more fun I just can't imagine it monkey doing one mean mother fucking Champ and they were going north and there's one dude who always annoy them so he kills him with a rock and then uses the rock to take his fucking skin off and wears it to freak everybody else out but then he realized it makes them warm and you go a little further north ha ha ha that's a good movie okay I like to get a movie can you see that scene I can see that that that that's like that's what the entire movie leads up to one of the first monkey figured out he could kill an animal with like a tool like the first like Australia Pittacus or one of those probably yeah primitive humans when the first one was that stab something like a stabbed her rat or a rabbit with a stick and went holy shit right I can just use the

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tool yeah what other tools I'm going to start eating yeah how many good because if you didn't have a weapon how hard is it for a person to kill something with your hands what are you even going to get what are you gonna catch what the fuck can you catch with your hands well can't catch a squirrel you'd be just your hands no tools should be hunting and Gathering mostly but I mean I mean Gathering I would say yeah you beat and shit that you found on the ground yeah that's primarily what you would eat and then once in a while you'd get something an animal but but yeah but then they had yeah you're right they obviously had to figure out different ways of getting animals well it's one of the shifts that they think took place the allowed the human brain size to double over a period of 2 million years oh really human brain size apparently I was listening to a Terence McKenna lecture on this once news talking about all the human brain size doubled over the period two million years is one of the biggest mysteries in the fossil record and his idea was that they discovered mushrooms

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The Chimps over this period of time with the monkey-people whatever the fuck they were ancient hominids yeah had discovered mushrooms after the climate has shifted and he backs it up he did backup police he's dead now he backed it up with some climate data that we know from you know core samples and stuff like that yeah he thinks that they experienced climate change where the rainforest had receded in the grasslands and that this gave birth to the rise of ungulates like cows and you know dear and things like that and they would shit these mushrooms are grow on their shit and then they've observed a lot of these monkeys in the wild picking up Cow Patties and looking for grubs and beetles underneath it I think they might have experimented with the mushrooms and then if they experiment with psilocybin mushrooms a lot of things could take place once they realized that it was not just a viable food source but also provided them with a bunch of different benefits one being their vision and increases

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QA know so we rushing low Services yeah so I'm going to make them see things better to make some hornier make some more communal and it makes them more creative and all those things possibly could have given birth to the two language and to a lot of other things they also think it's possible that that creativity could have enabled them to start hunting that they started using tools and you and thinking and trying to figure out ways around stuff and trying to you know try to figure out how to make an effective weapon to kill something in the distance like the more they're thinking and becoming creative the more that stuff's enhancing them and this this period of 2 million years is like a pretty profound jump for the human brain size they think some of that also came to do with our desire to kill things with weapons the once we started hunting and eating meat we got way more protein more bioavailable protein all it was healthier for the animal for the human animal and then we also started to try to figure out other better ways to kill these animals which made us even more

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native and competitive yeah they think they're all this is all these factors might have taken place that turned us into a person that's pretty amazing 2 million years it's just like a deviation when you know what's even crazier 65 million years ago we were like a mole

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oh yeah people will like a little shrew that's our ancestors that's right I remember that what's the name of that thing oh no I think it's the Norfolk Aristocrats were to occur because well it's an orchestra for sisters I think you're right because it again of Christmas is it was like a weird little mole Christmas this pithos that's what it is yeah it's a little tiny rodent yeah because I did a podcast or no I toured with what is it Jamie oh there it is hmm the earliest of what is that word Uther Ian eutherian mammals was a small rat-like creature depicted in this illustration that lived a hundred forty five million years ago in the shadow of the dinosaurs so that rat like creature apparently survived the earthquake of the asteroid impact I don't think that's the thing though

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it's there's another there's a formal name for it I I know because I was on a podcast and they were the one of the segments of it they talked about this thing this is just but the only reason why I'm skeptical because it says a hundred forty five million years ago but I guess maybe they survive the impact scroll back up to the top of the title says these rodent-like creatures are the earliest known ancestors of humans Wales and Truth okay that's what's even more crazy like we used to be a whale like it's like or our ancestors we shared a common ancestor I should say yeah we like went into the sea and then yeah on land that thing that fucking rat became a whale what maybe that's it Syria there there it is okay hmm that turn into a person folks think about that we set in your rat traps and now hundred million years from now rats might be some super Superior human form I think that's very possible but I mean that I get why Christians are skeptical now I'm like what why do you show me your work God made this God

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I was not a rat I was not a rat sir yeah I just appeared but in essence here's a here's a way to kind of maybe Justified that argument it's like let's say the mushroom thing is true right so in essence humans became humans with the intervention if you will of a natural psychedelic substance which then expanded the mind and enabled the growth of that my the acceleration of intelligence self-awareness like like light speed and so in essence like God created man or whatever he liked that idea it's like well in essence the it is the unit you can think of God as the universe or whatever that's one way of thinking of it God a collective Consciousness where everyone call it like that that intervention or the ability to see or sense that expansiveness of that collective intelligence could be attributed to God so therefore you could say well I was never a blouse like well yeah

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you are from that but what created you write something more Cosmic so in if that's even true well I was reading a quote today from this one was mocking from Piers Morgan we was talking about the you like atheists and not knowing what happened before the Big Bang not knowing how no one has any answer for what happened before the Big Bang and about how this made sense to him that this is I think the way of saying it was a somehow or another it was evidence or at least in his eyes of something more Superior oh here it is no atheist can never say what was there before the Big Bang they just say nothing and they can't explain what nothing actually is no human brain can which is why I believe in something that has Superior powers to the human brain well that makes sense that there's definitely think about Brian Cox went after his ass what a Brian Cox a if you mean the hot big bang then there may be a period of

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rapid expansion known as inflation this theory is able to account for the observed features of the universe including including the CMB power spectrum and the flatness and Horizon problems I love it Cox just came out of with the science I love it I always try to say do it I know what he's trying to say what Pierce Mark is trying to say and he's right that no one has an answer is to like why this thing became why the Big Bang happened it's an interesting quote by this guy was talking about forget who it was I wish I could remember but he was talking about how people have might have been McKenna have so much faith in science and so little faith in mystical things but yet science revolves on One initial Theory where magic took place where everything came out of nothing that it was smaller than the head of a pin so so everything you see in the observable universe including Planes Trains and Automobiles all of it had to have had

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in origin in the most spectacular sorcery the world has ever known like it is all dependent upon magic so he wasn't he wasn't saying that you know ridiculous ideological ideas of the start and birth and death of the universe are fact but he was saying that look look the fact according to scientists is that all evidence points to this whole thing coming out of nothing this whole thing this whole thing existing out of nowhere and with Piers Morgan us I think is saying is that that gives birth that the gives proof that something superior to the human brain which for sure it does well yes here we are at this is Terrance McKenna we are asked by science to believe that the entire universe sprang from nothingness and at a single point and for no discernible reason this notion is the limit case for credulity in other words if you can believe this you can believe anything well I think I said it I said it in a paraphrase it go away that's basically the same

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he's you know the saying look it's all it's all nuts man yeah I mean my my my thing is like I think I like to think of it as in simulation terms and and in the sense that if thinking of like reality the way it's receiving the way we move through it as a kind of a designed game of sorts and so if I think of it in that way like nothing and something nothing in something that's just kind of that's the core of our reality right we live in a binary reality everything is a complex assortment of binaries that add up into a really complex system right in a way so what do you think it's moving towards well think about that well that's that's the thing I think that part of the rules or what makes it hard to rationalize like nothingness or or something very very fantastic is just because it because it's binary we are binary in our thought process so it's hard for us to not think of

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things in a binary way so we think other was a beginning another was an ending there was a beginning there's an ending but really it's infinite it's like it's Paradox right it's everything and nothing simultaneously hmm and and the absence of which but but I guess what I'm saying is that the idea that things are infinite that reality is infinite is kind of a good way but kind of can be scary but a good way to think of it because it doesn't make any sense why it wouldn't be it seems like we have a limited way of viewing what reality is and I think we're limited by our binary thought processes I guess well it's also interesting that we want to put any sort of limitations on the universe and that yeah its immense size isn't crazy enough for us yeah you know what I mean I know or that like we could look at what we know right if we know that the Universe has hundreds of billions of galaxies like just there's a bunch of competing theories as to what happens you know with black holes

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and whether or not there's multiverses is a bunch of theories right yes right but the one of the most profound ones that it was ever explained to me is that there's a supermassive black hole in the center of every Galaxy and it's exactly I think one half of one percent of the mass the entire galaxy oh really yeah what's up with the bigger areas so the bigger Galaxies have bigger supermassive black holes and the concept is that it's there is a real possibility that going through that black hole you would encounter an entirely different Universe with hundreds of billions of galaxies each Galaxy have a black hole in the center of it go through that black hole an entirely different universe so each one yes Universe where you have hundreds of billions of galaxies there are hundreds of billions of universes through those black holes and each one of those galaxies or each one of those universes has also hundreds of billions of galaxies in each one of those has a black hole you go through that

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hundreds of billions of galaxies that the whole thing fractal exactly just like this keep happening there's a resistant no no come on yeah there's nothing like an instant reaction to resist that notion as if the universe itself isn't already the most incredible thing of magic right I know what do you care if it's infinite why is that why would you even resist that well because that's the part of the binary thinking it's like you want something to have an end it's like it's a way for us to survive but like you know it's like oh there's an into that that creates a need to survive but when you think of things in abstract look like well if something is just infinite infinite infinite and what does that mean about us it's like that's the question that's the thing to explore because then you have to renegotiate your your your relationship to reality yeah which is pretty sick we have at least we'd like to take comfort in the idea that the Universe has at least there's a certain parameter to it no no it's 14 billion light years and that's it that's heck no more no more

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as if you can even understand what 14 billion light years is there's no way it could be that number it seems more like 19 but whatever that number is here they don't like the way Cox explained it to me yeah that and I believe Sean Carroll explain it this way as well there's a real there's a real lack of understanding about what goes beyond that because it takes a certain amount of time for light to even get to us and that time that that the light doesn't move fast enough to reach us from further events yeah so I'll give you had something from like 200 billion light years ago but maybe the light won't even get to us yet yeah there's things that yeah I mean we're living in a time machine yeah I mean that's when you that's the other mindfuck when you look in the sky and you're seeing a Galaxy or any sort of star like in the deep deep deep distance of space yeah the fucking light coming from that thing left a million years ago yeah

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I know or way more you're literally just looking at the past what is if you had imagined what is the closest star to our star in the the seeable Universe when you look up at the night sky with wings the dog star another way is that a star sometimes things are called stars with their plans from old-school times and I could be wrong if you had to guess was the closest how many laughs and all right I don't know that sounds great Alpha Centauri is it how much is it how far away is that

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for 4.3 light years from Earth wow that's too bad that's a hop skip and a jump he kills he go the speed of light take you four years like the Hawaii of outer space that like they go there and they was a pit stop there before they come to earth and the aliens come they want to chill I hope so alright so hon there's a shit some new outfit breaking news not really no it's a binary pair so I imagine that means that they moved yes other yeah they orbit around each other there's technically a third star Proxima Centauri which is because it says those are an average of four point three this one's for .22 so it's well thankfully closer nice than average so two are closer than the one on one day now do they know if there's planets around those Stars so the didn't even know there were other planets for sure other than are now it isn't it crazy to just a couple decades it's so amazing to me it's like shining a flashlight in the ocean yeah you know like

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what space is like it right it's like you're removing a beam but like things are constantly changing at different distances and you can see better under certain circumstances and you can seal at different times so like it's kind of like a big existential party you're like I think I'm making sense of this and then there's all these theories and then someone catches another angle they're like no no I mean yes a little bit of what you guys were thinking but also the snow like fuck and they just keep adding to it but I don't know if we're going to find necessarily anything but when you talk to physicists about the subject and they try to explain to you how they even reach these conclusions mmm and how they know that there's black holes out there in the first place and the yeah theories fucking like these these these theories of multiverses and yeah that's my favorite and brains the membranes that there's like yeah m-theory like lines of universes and we collide with each other occasionally yeah what the fuck that's why I think ghosts are by the way which was like in Interstate was

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- yeah with Matthew Modine is that the Stark I dare you I know I'm pretty sure was modiste guys Vision Quest it's a different era of like the number that are the Russian training with the log yeah function Darris yes no he wasn't Russian he wasn't no no who's the shoot oh yeah he's like the old trick of all right boy yeah some but there's like a guy training that's or with Gable are getting nervous there was the opponent training like the well Matthew Modine was trading crazy but he was trying to drop weight to go down to fight this the Russell this guy that everybody was terrified of yeah that's right sort of what was shoot the one that was walking with the log yes carrying a log up bust up stadium stairs that's right that was so sad and he was like super hardcore he's like think going to make the wait ha ha I hope so because I hope so too and just kept walking with the log so good see if you can find that's eating bad so good I mean it's a great movie man it's a great thing to come because like that interaction right there so genius

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it's like tells you everything you need to know yep both of those characters yeah yeah exactly so they go there area is there's a dude is badass beasts wrestler of course he's by himself and his friends had a fucking cool headband well his friend was a fake Indian friend lied about being a Native American so he could get into college no papers thought it made him look cool like area do I know you thought en suite Thompson hi can you play this over the air no no don't will get will get pulled

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yeah you can wait wait

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I hope so psycho hope so too

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just walking around his log boom everyone's scared fuck wow but it's pretty big yeah dude great for 80s yeah good well he looked like a real wrestler yeah you look like guys like Mark Schultz and he's competing in the Olympics he was fucking jacked man yeah it was some jack wrestlers back then still is obviously yeah it's one of the more physically intensive things you can do at that protection that muscle text you yeah it's also I mean just wrestling all the time you're gonna get strong oh yeah yeah that true that to you get a certain kind of strength to with that weird grip strength um and I'm telling you that shit is like it's like immediate like violent amounts of strength like for grips and stuff like because I just remember my friend he was a wrestler and he and I was like yeah I don't know wrestling is seems pretty hard or whatever seat here let me show you a move and I was standing as looking at him and I just blinked and I was just out of breath just on the ground on my back just like

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they're experts at throwing bodies around just like oh okay I mean it's like strength grip and being able to torque shit yeah it happened I mean it's insane whoops think about things you do to get fit right like with sand bags and stuff people do a lot like extreme things right they flip tires throw sand bags hours yep they take heavy bags to throw them over their shoulders oh yeah when you're wrestling you doing all that plus and plus it's resisting plus another thing is trying to get you right yeah it's super active it's like it's like active strength is going to be a deeper form of strength yes yes there's a range of motion strength yeah that's why the worst kind of strength is like Nautilus machine strength yeah yeah wait assisted machine not the worst kind of strange since a there with it did those things all have their purpose their really good for like specific types of works at workouts and specific types of exercises where you just trying to fatigue the muscles like a lot of like a lot of strength and conditioning athletes like to use those to bang out wraps because it's they feel like there's less factors going on

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in terms of whether or not you could drop the weight whether when you losing your ordination as it's a frosted it's safer but it's most people don't think it's ideal for just right for sport specific name for just overall strength because you're not getting balanced with it like if you if you go to heavyweights like free weights most people think that free weights are superior to a machine because you got to balance that thing push it on it develop you develop stability you're actually holding the weight instead of just pushing against a fort like using your Force against something that's lined up on tracks yeah you're controlling it if the control it the whole way yeah so that's what wrestling is but it's fighting back it's even harder 280-pound dude who's also fighting back and fuck you try to pick them up and move them around and he was also trying to get you at the same time yes and a sister too and it's all strategic yassir like honest strategic instinctual level you know then your hope your training and your reflexes

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than your intuition it's really interesting to watch like really skillful technical wrestlers because they go from one technique to another and they just chain wrestle like watching like a lot of those particularly Russians there's a lot of Russian lot of Soviet Bloc athletes from you know years back even we're like really really technical with the wrestling really beautiful to watch them chain these techniques together and yeah do these different moves to try to achieve dominance it's a crazy sport yeah whenever I watched it it's like you feel like it's like when I watch Dance I'm like I'm kind of moving with it you know I mean it happens with all sports at suppose but wrestling it's just like like like the energy when I'm watching it which has been very rare but in high school used to see wrestling matches my friends a wrestler and just be like oh oh man oh look an exciting yeah it's cool because it's like it slows down it's fast it's slow it's fast they're exhausted you take a break

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go and then then like nothing for a while like really just like slow moves and then suddenly someone just does like this really weird pocket and it just flips and it's like I love that energy man it's a different thing than any other sport yeah it's different than any other sport that's in the Olympics to like the Olympics yeah boxing and wrestling and then you have sports Judo yeah Judo even Taekwondo they have taekwondo 62 now but the thing is that those sorted it's a different kind of sport man's sport where people get fucked up yeah those are different yeah just they're just different it's a different feeling when you watching it it's a different consequence when you fail yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I mean it's as close as you can get it's the closest thing to fighting oh yeah I mean because fighting is mostly grappling it's a lot of it a lot it's not everything yeah but like at least what 2/3 maybe well-known okay so you'll fight it's really like a street fighter I gotta make

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three fights go down pretty quick right sometimes they do but sometimes they just get people get knocked out sometimes people can just get flat line because they don't know how to strike and someone does they punch him in the face that happened a lot I think there's a lot of videos I think I said some of those yeah I mean it definitely does happen that a lot of fights go to the ground and I think to just a great thing to learn and wrestling's great thing to learn because of that like the ability to manipulate someone's bodies really important but you also should understand what someone's doing if they're trying to punch you some people just don't have any idea what's happening yeah just get bong we get their fucking Bell cracked because they don't see a guy pulling his hand back they don't see the shift in weight right don't see someone about to punch them they don't see where the punch is going to come from what direction that they have to avoid they don't see those things because they've never experienced it because they don't have a training they don't have any training in Striking that's just as that's fucking dangerous man this wood because if you lose to a wrestler or used to a jujitsu guy a lot of times you wrestler might beat you up

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ground might ground and pound you but yeah Jiu-Jitsu guys probably just gonna choke you but kick box is going to slam his fucking Shannon your face like you do not want that man you do not want that holy shit the worst way to lose the worst way to loses to a striker past weekend no this is a fastest-ever knockout in UFC history this guy Jorge masvidal knocked out this two time Olympic wrestler Ben askren is a beast of a wrestler and it knocked about five seconds because askren went to shoot to try to get a hold of his legs and moms would L ran out of the flying knee and hit him right in the face was while he's trying to Bend forward that's legal yeah I'll show fuck yeah that's legal that's it right there boom oh fuck it's all over the Internet you want to see it so yeah thanks five seconds it was one of those things where we watched it we went holy shit like as it happened okay as I was talking about it that one down there but that window don't mind you just turned away from wasn't it

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the one below it wasn't it wasn't it it wasn't it oh it's other people talking about the reaction I see it's definitely on Instagram but apparently it's getting pulled left and right yeah of course they're going to try to do that which is just it's just like that's for everybody I don't understand why they would let everybody have that like no we need that we need to own that commodity but that's it's good for everybody it's not how the internet works either you don't win the fans here we go here we go so this is the beginning of the fight ready this is round one yep

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I'll cold 57 cover the ref though yeah it wasn't even really five seconds he was out cold at three seconds they someone did time from here boom out cold three seconds and as a referee's running over to him yeah and why is he yelling at him being hated each other really I hate each other Jorge masvidal said that guy was taunting him for like 10 years talking shit to him so he couldn't wait to do that to him yeah now what well been dust himself off he took it like a man I mean he really did he went on a talk show and talked about it afterwards and good yeah that's that's how you fucking douche 8 yeah a magic look it sucks I don't like losing that guy's a douche yeah right but they're probably gonna end up being somewhat friend friendly later on down the line no you don't think so no mas Vidal said that if he saw me at a Whole Foods is not over he still smack him in the face even Whole Foods couldn't hold him back at Whole Foods can't hold back right in front of the kombucha the real GT kombucha the kind of you need

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of credit are you going to show you ID to get

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it's like no Whole Foods man that's like that's like hello Gran you can't start a fight there's no he's a willing to break the rules I saw a fight at Disneyland on Instagram the other day these are going out on Disneyland this one guy punched a chick to a taxi Bill filament to people were filming at these people were throwing down in front of their kids at Disneyland terrible technique to everybody's terrible terrible I love that the the equally disappointing aspect of it well that's terrible tank it's the most disciplined it's like guys if you're gonna fight it's just learning technique yeah I mean it's like someone's stealing the stage and playing bad guitar you'd be angry with yeah sure of course see what I'm saying yeah I get it no I'm in complete agreement I think that that is kind of equally important because hey man if people are filming yeah people like a consensual fight you look like you're trying to pretend you know how to fight yeah and at the worst is the pulling off of the shirt I don't even know how that

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even becomes like an interesting it's actually a good move well to keep you slippery right so you can like well you want yeah you don't want anybody choking you to death with your own jacket oh that's true yeah that's true well okay but I mean I guess in the videos that I've seen it's been mostly about like hey check out hijacked I am and bro yeah yeah and here did a kind of look like this dude got choked out but I couldn't quite tell what was going on here because he went down quick is that security and who hasn't been out for a second so he's pulling a girl's hair see oh yeah he's out cold he's out cold oh you dropped him as head banged off the ground to that ball dude choke the shit out he's like well I just killed a guy I'm gonna get out of here but you know what a joke no charges were pressed because no one wanted to say what the fight was about hilarious

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but was that so it was a guy that was holding a girl's hair at the end you guys said he got spit on and he went crazy wow I don't know if that was their whole thing their funny that's all it takes a little bit of water a little bit up yeah it's funny it's I got all the things that make people go crazy spit in someone's face is like wow we're ready to go to war here yeah I mean it's it is pretty clear that accrued biological weapon back in the day if you had some like small pox just push it yeah how dare you potentially infect me do you ever heard Damon Wayans joke about when Magic Johnson came back to the NBA Magic Johnson after he had HIV and then came back to the NBA he said Damon Wayans who's my opinion one of the most underrated comedians of all time still one of my all-time tested all time favorite but in one of his HBO specials he goes he goes everybody was avoided magic nobody wanted play defense he goes except Dennis Rodman he goes down as Robins like listen I spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms

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I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms this data is one of my all-time favorite lines I hear that line on yeah damn that's a great that is a crafted brilliant thing to think that something like 200 ad and hurts that one hurts I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate your symptoms obviously I'm sorry I fucked Madonna that's what he said I'll spit in your mouth and accelerate yourself even more potent that's like some shit talking like that's the type of shit that wins that wins the whole thing yeah you gotta walk away yeah keep talking after that like no that's it and I think you lost it man take it like a man yeah yeah yeah maybe that's why spitting and it's also it's gross it's just great it's just gross and so rude it's so fucking rude I mean when someone purposefully spits at you yeah you're like I want to destroy you I guess I could kind of understand that reaction

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I think people are get like licking food that's grocery stores like some girls going to get arrested or she's facing like 20 years or something I don't understand I don't know why because I thought that was funny to look food and other people going to buy it yeah well people think it's funny to spit in people's food when they're serving it to yeah it's weird people are kind of grow sometimes yeah you know the they'll get it any way they can man yeah get back so get back at the world yeah do you take this shit position in life like no I don't I don't agree here's your salad I'm sorry yeah I know mix it up so you gotta be nice to son you gotta be nice to everybody but we like swapping Spit with people and that weird that is really weird well because that's consensual right yeah well not just it's consensual it's like it's pleasurable it's like even if it's consensual you don't want to be spit in your mouth no because that's super fucking gross yeah but killing someone's open your mouth and they like put like that would be weird like you just spit in my food is gross goddamn it but if

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kissing you in their tongues in your mouth and you're swapping literally swapping spit it's sexy it's hot we like it yeah yeah I'm glad I'm glad that I like that part yeah because the other part I'm just like yo bro man you can't what's wrong with you why are you doing are you doing this bit in each other's mouths you don't need to do that because it's not worth it it's like the delivery methods what we have a real problem with yeah exactly apart from the program is to fucking football players do it this is a giant Loop oh that's a movie yeah so they really did do it for the scene pretty sure they had to

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fucking disgusting they spit in each other's mouths why I guess when you're playing football you just want to be a Savage as possible and you don't give a fuck you make out with a dude you'll fuck a couple of guys and then you go play football yeah couldn't feel like you don't care here the entire force of the universe behind ya people do things to let people know they don't give a fuck yeah that's true that is true they do things like that like have you seen Euphoria with HBO show no it's did move a stack yeah it's I think it's out now you know what it is Jamie I've heard of it heard it's good it has not watched it yet what's it about ridiculous it's basically about it centers around a drug-addicted high schooler played by his and Daya and it's just about the modern kind of modern generation High School experience through earn drug addiction are trying to overcome drug addiction or kind of realizing what is going on with her

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at that stage in her life and there's just it's just the culture of all the things that kids deal with these days but it's done in a really really hyper beautiful stylized way it's so crazy intelligent it's amazing it really blew me away I was not a I just went to the opening and was like I don't know I don't know what this is and then the guy got up and talked about it because the writer experienced addiction has been clean for 15 years some of them but that was his life back then as a teenager and so they had adopted it and it's great but the reason why I bring that up is what were we talking about a second ago well we talked about it before that spitting each other's mouths yeah we went from that to people want to pretend they don't give a fuck of the want to let you know they don't give a fuck oh yeah that's exactly right yeah so there's like a great scene in the first in the pilot doesn't really give away anything but one of the characters she's in a kitchen and there's like a big bully dude popular guy that's like

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getting getting interface and being really threatening and then she takes a knife and she just slices her arm and chance that I think she was just like stay away from me mother fucker something like that there's something more eloquent than she says well that happens and then when she introduces herself and leaves she goes oh by the way I'm unbothered she walks out but it's such an intense scene it goes from the darkest of the darkest to like a practical this this person is really smart the girl who cut her arm is incredibly smart that's a crazy thing to do to someone they are yourself and kind of stuff in front of them and just shows you that it's like I don't give a fuck like that's like the one thing I'll do to you yeah exactly yeah and the guy was everyone was just frozen there like I don't know what the fuck they're just a bunch of high school kids in the kitchen pretty cool pretty cool like character detail just kind of like shows you everything about that character in a split second yeah Jesus

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amazing love that shit

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that's intense yeah I love when you don't know something's good you don't know anything about it and it turns out to be awesome it's the best feeling prisoners are my one of my favorite Parts go in the movies I love ya previews but yet they ruin move exactly I know I'm the same way on the same way it's like peeking into a Christmas present like when you're a little kid you like conscious unwrap this bitch and yeah he rabbit that's a fucking TIE fighter oh my God it's Darth Vader's yeah a little-little fucking sneak and unwrap it shit rehab act like it oh my god I didn't even think she's coming your parents like let me look at that rapping yeah fuck I have been caught but that's almost like what previews are you to see a little bit about what the movies about I would wouldn't it be better if you had no fucking idea if you just don't want even know a synopsis I don't want to I don't know what King Kong is which if you didn't know what King Kong was like the newer King Kong you thought it was like about like a king yeah

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no idea and you sit down you have no idea how the story is going to come come out the moment you see the gorilla you're probably like holy shit yeah when he's fighting dinosaurs and stuff you'd like holy shit yep it would be so much better than you watch all those previews are the special effects are amazing on the new Godzilla I know but you go to see it it's like I've already seen it I know he's gonna breathe fire out of his mouth I know what it looks like you've shown me yeah it's you know I my favorite trailers are the ones that just kind of give you a feeling of the world and that's it like the new Joker trailer is sick yes it's perfect example it's great it's a piece of art unto itself but it's not giving away a lot I mean there's a lot of time you see a lot of shit and you kind of get an idea but not really it's a it's a very Artful trailer yeah but you got to have something yeah well as people aren't going to go to Europe I know that's the problem but remember Cloverfield yeah and that came out and like that weird the ads that show just be like

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and that's all you heard yeah Cloverfield you're like what the fuck is this those are weird movies right like those movies like this movie sucks because it was just film by people who were there well yeah right quality's terrible the cameras going to be shaky yeah you're gonna scream and drop the camera it's going to bounce and gonna see like that we kind of knew back then ish I mean Blair Witch you know it was kind of a starter of that brought Blair Witch freak me out the first time I went to see it I want to see what Chris McGuire Comedian Chris McGrath and a couple folks that worked at the movie theater across the street and they came to see us we were performing at the Houston laughs stop okay and so they we're talking to them before the show and they're like hey we work at the movie theater and I was like oh we're going to probably go there this weekend see that Blair Witch movie and the do is like hey I have the keys if you want we can open it up tonight after the show I what I what I was like fuck yeah so it was right across the street so me and McGwire and I think there's like

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three of them that work there we all hung out and watch the Blair Witch together in a fucking empty movie theater they made popcorn and everything but just don't know they have the key to the place so I mean if their boss found out that would be fucks Ville yeah so don't share this yeah we're not telling anybody but this is like 17 18 years ago at the very end when that movie come out exactly the movies last time ago nineteen eighty nine ninety nine so yeah 20 fucking years ago we're at the Houston laughs stop that was awesome so cool what a great like flow of an event yeah have a dope-ass gig and then you're like oh fuck yeah check this out yeah it was fun but that movie was as a fat kid the shit out of you yeah it took me a while to get into because remember Dogma do you remember that that Korea s so they remember the celebration that had come out that was the first movie that I saw that was made all on you know because they had those rules like they we only use natural light we only use DB cams blah blah blah blah and it was great it was

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interesting and weird and oh my God that's kind of crazy and then Blair which came out and had that kind of vibe it a little bit more curated like Marin narrative but I was like I thought it was eerie but I really didn't get scared until the very very end yeah when when it's going down the stairs and then the flashlight is searching around and then sees that girl facing the corner yeah that fucked me up yes that that read that one moment so the whole thing I was like that's pretty you know it's cool it's creepy okay well of Hope and then it just that thing I was like fuck you it was a strong closer his us real strong closer I mean that's the way you go out yeah that's the way you go out but isn't it interesting that we like movies that are on film right we like that look yeah we did we'd like the things that are in the Forefront and focus but everything in the back is just like yeah glory and fuzzy that's true it's got this like quality thing to it even though now we see videos

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that are very literal from phones all the time we see that kind of imagery we still don't necessarily see you wouldn't see that in a movie theater when you're Sara Lee you to too distracted by all the outside images so if you're talking to her like you and I are talking I'm focusing on you I know there's some stuff over to the left and stuff over the right but I'm not seeing it the same I'm seeing you yes I that's one of the reasons why like when you interpret video like you visually interpret video it's a very weird Distortion even though it's the most accurate representation because I can't look at everything at the same time so if you look at a photograph and everything is in Focus what kind of what are you using what are you using to see things with this is my eyes don't work like that yeah my eyes are looking at you and everything around you like I know there's a clock right here but I'm but dude I can't even read what time it is it's right there I can't read it but now I can read it right yes okay you know the stuff that's just a few inches to your left or right and I literally can't see them yes it's a tiny tiny point that you're actually focusing on this Focus

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right from these things yeah range from the face so that's make that makes sense like for focus it kind of replicates the way though and it's also a story telling my cousin right focus on this part and yes it definitely is that yeah but it also it's like the looks cooler it just looks yeah it looks dope it looks Pro yeah it's a high-res yeah maybe like a video camera like a regular standard consumer grade video camera almost takes clear pictures oh for sure yeah it's like if you ever put your phone in time-lapse mode yes it looks like the way it tracks when you're moving it over objects it's got a higher frame rate or something like that but it makes it look like that pan and scan shit you know when you're watching sports that's or whatever and it just looks wrong you know like it's too literal there's something to the way everything moves just feels slightly off do you think that we're just accustomed to the way film looks and then if we were accustomed to the way video looks

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then film would be look clunky to us I'll give everything started off as video and they said you know what it's not really good to have everything in Focus it's only good to have some things in focus and back away some things are blurry than they come into focus and actually enhances the filmmaking yes right yes like in a horror movie yes something is blurry and then they zoom in on it and you see it's like a fucking monster hide under the bed yeah oh no that's not what I didn't want that to happen even now just revealed yes exactly what I didn't want to see ya ya know I agreed yeah I don't know I mean I don't know but I know that you know people of like film I think it just looks it's the texture of it but now people like DV well it's like people like vinyl right just people that are just die hard vinyl fans they like to go around yeah I mean you know I like I like I like anything you know but I like to I'd like to make sure that it's the

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best quality of it or the most natural use case for it you know you know it's like when people used to mix when people started listening more to music in their car that they could like put a thing that they bought in their car with an eight-track or whatever or at least to have record players for cars to but you know the way that music sounded they were kind of they also had to consider the mix of car speakers what does it sound like on car speakers so going back to the aura tones and the NS tens and then the standardized car speakers that people test audio in and rise and it's a different parameter right because you're stuck in this little contained metal box yeah yeah so you got to figure out how to mix the music but generally it's the sound system that has to be adjusted mmm the sound systems have to but you mix two so they kind of meet each other in the middle but great Hi-Fi systems my actually it's a quick anecdote but when I was in Seattle I knew that I liked Hi-Fi systems

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but I didn't know why they're so expensive and so I went into this place this guy named Leland who was working there was kind of friends with him because I'd come in and I just scope gear all the time just look at like I love audio gear it's just really sweet and and then one day it was towards the end when they were closing and he turns to me and says hey man do you want to get your brain fried and I was like what do you mean and he's like stick around like okay and he closed shop couple of his friends came and close the shop it's like maybe five of us went into the back room smoked some marijuana went into the showroom the main room where they have all the speakers and all the different types of units and he says then he just kind of turns to us we all sit down on the couch and he says okay you're going to listen to a this is a system in total it costs about a hundred and fifty thousand dollars whoa and and then he just goes proceeds then goes through and explains all of the stages that you know that the current is going through and with the music is going through was being played on

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all the cables that are being used all this stuff and then I heard all of that crazy speakers like okay cool he lowers the lights and he puts on a Bill Evans Trio record I can't remember which one and he just presses play and we sit down and like within probably 30 seconds people were crying wow and because it felt holographic it felt like you were in the room with those musicians that were playing right there for you and then I had the realization that it's not the money it's not about the money it's about what does it take to engineer a machine that becomes invisible to the experience and that was that kind of blew my mind so whenever you're designing anything it's like you're designing the experience engineering sure yeah should should get the fuck out of the way what was the medium was it vinyl vinyl yeah yeah what do you think like in your description

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what is different about vinyl well I mean supposedly if you have a really nice quality piece of violence cut really well you get as close to the original Master recording experience like coming out of the studio if you're talking about older tape so whatever that Final Mix is when someone plays it in there like it's been mastered here's the stereo to track we're playing the stereo to track it's been mastered excuse me I'm a lil Weezy and that's what you hear you hear it in the best possible context on the speakers that it was mixed on its everything is optimal so essentially when a record is pressed if it can mimic that the stereo to track the master which it does then you have something that for at least the first I don't know vinyl people say how many times but a record starts to wear down but if you have a fresh press you can run it a bunch of times before it starts to degrade

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but in that state you're hearing it like analog super analog it's like example how many times you think you play before it starts to grade I don't know I guess it depends on the ears of the audio file but there's probably an average I don't know what it would be maybe 60 30 40 50 time now is there a digital format that at least comes close oh yeah yeah Flac files what is that it's a file format Flac files are good usually a hundred and twenty-eight 96 kilohertz like that's there's like kind of a mastering to digital mastering standard and that standard is is basically what that is what a record is so that's why you have like sites like HD tracks that I really dig you can get all your favorite out well not all it's not as big of a selection but you can get full resolution from like stereo to track master from the studio level quality in a digital format that you can

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and then put into a high-res player so I have a high res player a Hi-Fi Pro Player and it runs the has really nice circuitry and all that stuff and then use a really great pair of headphones and you've got the closest thing to a record that's repeatable infinite times and is the headphones the way to go or one of those crazy tower speaker jammies the way to go huh well it depends on your use case like if you if you know if you are in a house and you want like a cool living room system or whatever I would always opt for speakers and not not Sonos and not that kind of stuff people they dig it but true I mean records are meant to be played off of two speakers with as it's a 2.1 system unless it's specifically engineer which is very rare for like at most or whatever the fuck but usually it's two speakers and a subwoofer so why would I not want to hear the music way it's supposed to sound right however I understand the convenience of the speakers so I'm not totally knocking it but for me if you're going to get a system for your living room if I can get a 2.1 system yeah you want to play

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out the way you want the sound to come at you the way it was recorded yeah otherwise it changes the experience yeah completely these the Sonos in those types of things they they fake stereo Henry Rollins was on the podcast and he has this most Preposterous set up in his house he is a gigantic audio file oh shit a massive lover of music oh my God he collects all these albums and he even runs a radio show he doesn't love his radio show ya stopes on KCRW yeah so these an attic these are the crazy fucking speakers he has in his house what the fuck and there's some what are those two hundred thousand dollars is what they are the only forget I have seen those I've seen pictures of that that's who makes this Alexandria XLF is what they're called okay Wilson Alexandria dope they look I mean it's disgusting look at those things you have to have their weapons you know like you you have to go back was pulled back so we can see where gas for full-size those things like look at what a weird-looking piece of equipment looks like a future robot looks like an

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yeah machine right yeah totally or like a display screen robot yeah today we have here swipe here for you thank you for your business goodbye was so is the one that we're looking at on the right hand side is that the back yeah wow look at all that shows it shows the input I don't even know what the fuck they have discrete inputs for each of the frequency spectrums different speakers

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damn some people go deep it's like everything right look at it that's what it looks like that's another one look at that God will razors thing I mean it's beautiful I mean audio is $100,000 fucking speakers we that guy he's like I have it all wish my spirit look at The Fringe on my curtains I'm Heinrich Romans that's crazy man yeah well there you go and we found system at cars amazing to man because we're you know you get like a mark Levinson like I've Al oh yeah there's a mark Levinson system in it yeah it's just like the whole thing's engineer for the shape of the inside of the car yes such as rings out and all these perfect places it's tight one of my favorite places listen to music is a car and I was stoked to get my Audi because I got the B&O system in there and I've never heard better audio I mean I've heard some dope as I think I have a think the Tesla uses Levinson stuff I'm not totally sure people haven't been able to figure out but they should have by now but I

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like five years ago trying to figure out like who what is the premium audio system like what is it besides a premium audience and I couldn't get an answer someone figured out what the amp was but they couldn't figure the speakers or so that's interesting but but the Audi man banging Olsen and I have some a teens at home there it's a 2.1 system and it just finally started kicked in and now it sounds amazing I was like really kind of disappointed for well yeah it's weird there's almost finished yeah there's like a burn in what I think there's a burning I'm not sure maybe it's totally maybe you got better we maybe I did get better read I mean what do you think of this weed by the way fantastic for re really good yeah it does it's not weighing you down now it's just a nice friendly like you're you're fucking hot but like oh yeah feeling good it's good stuff it's not like you're not freaking out I like it a lot what's it called again purple what purple to know Purple Rain venom venom

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you tease yes but why does he know what she was gonna create a bond I know the Great Brain that's awesome Purple Venom that legit him absolutely wow wow wow la la yeah you have the Browns yeah and then there's like a subwoofer that looks like an egg yeah and they're great because it's I have my house kind of mid-century mod-2 hands I mean mid-century mother oh that's me transit I was wasn't I think it was the first time I think I've said please sound it yourself yes sorry just like mid-century modern that's fine you're gonna love this the curtains are provided for you'll notice that the the overall layout has been cinch mod the only people I don't trust is when I go over their house and they have a minimalist set up like where they have like plastic chairs that only because they have any cushion and a flat table with nothing on it and everything small and there's nothing there I'm like what are you doing yeah you show me your clean brain yeah fucking psychopath

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that's happening here where there's this soft surfaces where's the place to chill you know I I like what I dig is that mid-century modern furniture yeah I don't even know what that is you know like was it Zhu Ben Jewel no Jewels for you it is it's I think he's a Swedish or Danish architect or Furniture designer

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Finn juhl that's it I think and he makes these like you've seen these chairs before but the originals are just it's such a great work of art it's like sturdy comfy but light enough that there's like a bar in the back that's just made to grab and you can just throw it around but when it is set up in a room it looks substantial and it looks comfortable but super lightweight so their idea was like to be super modular really easy to move for company you know this is a renew that's not quite it typed in Furniture oh yeah since your monster yeah I was his name is Finn juhl spell the FI and then yeah jewel maybe Jay Georgie uh L yeah like that orange one right there yeah that's like 11 does one design but that one it has that that extra thing I that's not how mine are mine are just like it's just a back and no arms and the but the same shape and you sit in them and they're just great

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firm but comfortable like you feel active like you could get out of it if you needed to there were there know what is this a of the top

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that's just shit Finn if I enter uh L maybe try classic or something that looking stuff though yeah it's down if they look like the grasshopper chair yeah so weird when you have a chair that's down low to the ground that's too low mine are not like that mine are like thing is you can keep your feet in front of you yeah like the one stretch your legs out like that 109 chair like that that kind of stuff so it's like normal chair height but it's beautifully designed but it's minimal and for my living room like I like the idea that I could just like move my furniture and if people want to dance or whatever you can just do that and you have to be fuck you know I'm going to need help like one person could literally grab both chairs and bright and you don't have some bullshit sitting in the could break yeah yeah yeah people yeah totally hey guys don't go near the end table guys I'm really sorry about that hey easy easy with the hey hey hey hey hey hey rock and roll music everybody crazy Jesus Eric fancy speakers I told you to beat the chill-out mixes only yeah you need to chill out mix

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for late-night like really groovy Jobim stuff you know those like a Brazilian bossa nova hmm do you what do you what are your thoughts on like streaming services like music yeah title and stuff like that you will things like Spotify and Pandora these Street Apple music the streaming services I think they're convenient but I don't quite trust the quality yet and I have a lot invested in iTunes but I started using title only because it's the less that seems to be the least popular of all the streaming services but it's Jay-Z's company and now that I'm like it and I Jay-Z fan I just like that it's owned by an artist right and that they focus on super high and codecs for their streaming so it's like the highest quality possible-- for streaming since then Spotify claims to have it I don't think Apple does it yet anyways but I like I like the tiles it so I mean I guess the idea

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being as long as it's fair for the uh the the artist you know the deal for streaming and how streaming's streaming is calculated and how that turns into revenue for our on the revenue side of things that's really what's the biggest concerns Revenue side of things it seems like that's where the this whole thing was like the Wild Wild West when it got started and the the way the parameters were established it's not in favor of the artist it's in favor of the people that run the streaming companies they're the ones who make the substantial profits yes absolutely yeah the companies do all they have is the work of artists I know just why it's so crazy that they make most of my money because they provide a platform all they have is the you don't sell shit without artists if every artist is like nah fuck you yeah and you don't have anything yeah you have nothing you don't sell anything yeah like your to sell and tomatoes and you don't even grown yeah you want most of the money like if you were tomato store and you got your tomato from a farmer in the farmer to do all this fucking work to make the tomatoes and they sold them at your store but you got almost

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all the money yeah and now he's I know it's totally crazy doesn't make any sense when you couldn't grow tomatoes with any other far more for the next ten years after all yeah that's why yeah because they tie you up yeah you have to make commercials about these Tomatoes but you have to pay for them now they know all comes out of your profit not ours if it's crazy it's all about it's all about direct economy you know I mean like that's that's the way that's where we are now I think yeah I think that's where we are where we're headed I think that's definitely I don't you know I can barely that's why I want to kind of do my own streaming stuff like that I want to be in tied up into with another company that utilizes behavioral statistical data of to increase their algorithms for targeted advertising but that's not really interesting to me yeah I think what a guy like you to just build it and they will come you know and then advertisers who resonate with your sort of mindset they'll find you this 20 there's plenty of cool CBD Brands and yeah fill in the blank of cool companies

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I'd be more than happy to advertise on something that you know what you'd have a guaranteed audience of a certain kind of people yes don't totally totally I think it's great and I think also just having a direct store to I just love the idea of like whatever I make that's just sold yeah store it in like you're just paying me and I'm getting it and you're getting the thing and that's it yeah I mean you've worked for a bunch of different companies before done things it's like it can be great you can work with a bunch of cheerful people or absolute disaster you got some time suck in the middle of the fucking mix and they just they demand too much attention there's too much conflict and nonsense and yeah interpersonal drama and sometimes people start fuckin oh yeah people that work together start fucking and then you have to hear the opinions of both of them while you pretend that you don't know that they're fucking this is weighing heavily on the way they're communicating with everybody else like oh yeah that's supporting each other and you're supposed to support them to now their relationship has become

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her stage in your office that's like one of the reasons why people don't want office romances not even just because women don't want to be harassed by men that are trying to fuck them all the time so it's just say no one can do it but also because once it a relationship does happen one of two things yeah either it'll grow ends right yeah either oh great and everyone's going to be part of it so your relationship becomes a part of the whole ecosystem of the office or it'll go terrible and people have to pick sides and or one of you has to leave yeah like so or that do do you if you're amongst the most miraculous people you have a amicable split and you become really good friends afterwards you still work together with no problems even like each other spouses yeah right spot it is possible it is possible it's happened I'm sure it's happened yes but much much more rare but if I was running a company I'll be like listen you guys can't bang each other yeah I know it sounds gross I know that you're here all day let's problem is like what if you met the girl of your dreams

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on a job that was your dream job like shit what do you do you have to make the decision is like a fucking Jennifer Lopez movie right yeah totally like like to yell to successful I don't give a fuck about this job Jennifer I want to be with you dot dot dot play the music it's like no you don't have to quit I'll quit yeah fuck this type but I've got a cramp no you can't and then they decide to start their own firm yeah if it was real chick movie the girl would have liked the smaller paycheck to and the guy would lose the bigger paycheck and he would he would come she would come home from work and he would be wearing a fucking like like an apron and he would be mopping yes that'd be great well I guess I guess I should get used to it like that's how it is my life now and like I fell in love the perfect job I gave up my perfect job for the perfect woman

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yeah yeah that would suck if you had the dream job but you met a girl there who choose single and she was into you you both into each other you like God damn it what are you doing start banging and don't tell anybody that's what you do right prop probably or if you're like super pro and super committed you just figure out a way not to and just kind of maybe come up with an agreement or something I don't know plot your exit yes you apply your eggs always know your exit while you're lying about banging each other yes yeah you gotta lie gotta lie and say yeah we're going I'm going to the movies tonight my friend Melissa hey why are you going back Todd's house for some dick that sucks such a terrible way to live guys don't do it yeah worth it but the most terrible probably live in the closet that's probably the most terrible that's the most it's a super unnecessary one I think yeah well in some cases not at all yeah well it's also like it's symbolic of you know we all have things in the in a closet they mean that's like that's like a pretty big

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level that's noticeable by many many people but in a way it is a metaphor for like there are a lot of things that we don't allow ourselves to sure like let people know about and especially in the corporate world right you're forced to present a air quotes professional image and this enhances your ability to earn living and enhances your ability to be successful inside that corporate structure so you literally have to play a role all the time which is why if you talk to women who are dominatrixes one of the things that they say is the guys are really like to get kicked in the balls and shit on are the guys who run businesses the guys who are like yeah they need to feel it yeah dang it feel alive they need a kick in the balls and need someone pissing in their mouth they need something to get smacked they want to get crazy because they're so button down all day long the could barely take it

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God they're so lucky Reggie you're so lucky an artist so lucky son of a bitch I love it sounds in a cubicle right now mad at you fuck him no man you guys can live your dreams I mean I mean it's ration people about credit card loans yeah I know well you know we could be doing more of us could be more creative but we're not really designing our society to support that yeah we you and I can't fix the streets and fix this tree no but we can inspire people to fix the streets yeah of course I mean you know sometimes it just takes a little kick in the the yarbles a calzone of conversation with my friend the other day we're saying he sent the you know you kind of really need all kinds of people because there's all kinds of jobs that you don't want to do and I was like yeah we're having a problem with our exterminator and I'm like but like could you imagine a dude who's really cool who's into killing rats like that's what he does for a living it's just fucks rats up that's this whole deal yes rats I know it out there

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the just sort stir certain types of screws yeah assembly line all day long that's what they do somebody needs to do that otherwise not gonna get done well you know I mean theoretically you know robotics different people fear like robotics getting over jobs and things like things like that theoretically the positive side of that is if Society is organized themselves in a way that ensures that people remain productive aside from these automations because it's taking away the menial tasks the repetitive tasks bullshit and then we were able to allocate more brainpower to the economy if that's the way it's viewed its rad I think it's a welcome thing and I think yeah there's fear or you know the unknown and things like that but if the government helps or you know there's a transition that's at least considered it could be really really beneficial well how do you feel about things like Universal basic income how do you feel about that I mean that's because that's what people are going to need if we get to a point where millions of jobs vanish overnight because of automation which could happen

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you're looking at a I mean obviously I don't I don't know what I'm talking about but if I did I would say you'd look at a nationwide version of what happened in Detroit when the Auto industry backed out well yeah I mean I don't know I mean I don't know like the universal

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I mean I it kind of makes sense but I also don't know about the successful models and the non successful implementations because obviously with Society is it becomes a lot more complicated because it's people and people are complicated and so when you say there's Universal income for there's a base amount that everybody will have yeah I have to worry about certain things right well transitioning out of the current state the Mind state that we're in some people just going to try to blow it you know all and then they'll go into debt hmm and then you know maybe or maybe designed the system to be really foolproof and it's just a commodity is based so people can only get the value that they're guaranteed as you know rent being paid actual food you know actual things so they don't have access to the money I don't know if you don't give them access to the money they don't give them adequate choices in terms of where they can get their food like I'm not in favor that because if you had like a government place where they had groceries can go get your groceries for free I play is going to be disgusting

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well because there's no competition you know I'm saying yeah well maybe no incentive for excellence well maybe if it was like a you know some kind of a card or something associated like an Apple pay type thing so you just you go to whatever story you want to similar to like a welfare car door for ya like food stamps yeah exactly but a little bit more framed differently right like you have an account with the government where every month you've got like a thousand dollars cash and $500 in food yeah like maybe something like that yeah yeah and then the rewards for like you know moving out of that like phasing out of that right let me think the way Andrew Yang has a structured you would get everyone would get it you could opt out of it like say if you were doing just like yourself like you could opt out of it oh that's cool yeah that like I do like the everything thing because as soon as you dissed you make something specifically for a certain population especially you talking about that and the thing it's not it doesn't it doesn't work I mean conceptually it just better when everyone knows like oh you have it I have it there's something that binds all

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we're all in common obviously this billionaire doesn't need it but there's just a precedent for people that make a certain amount of money they're suggested to like you know offset that like put it back into the system so there's more money right people that need it whatever but I think like saying it's for everybody is kind of a smart thing to do I like that everything yeah everybody is that you have equity in the corporation that is the United States of America oh that's interesting yeah that's weird particular if you thinking about natural resources like a man when you imagine the enormous profits that someone gets from natural resources like the idea that you own the oil that's under the ground like is who's decided that like well why we decided that you can go a mile off the ocean stick a fucking tube in the ground suck out all the oil and make a trillion dollars like who said who said you could do that that's not even your ground yeah so the what the government is giving a license to be p + BP drills holes a mile offshore and then

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suck all the oil out and they make billions and who's getting that money and how much does the government get and how much is it be paying for that contract and why doesn't that money go to the people that live in country because if the people live in the country the country's the corporation the corporation is the one that owns this water yeah they're the ones us so the idea would be that you would we would all profit from it they would make substantially less than they make now and then instead of these people making billions and billions of dollars for something that's not even theirs yeah like that profit would be split evenly around the country in terms of infrastructure and replenishing impoverished communities and community centers and trying to figure out a way to engineer out all the horrific neighborhoods use the natural resources yes I mean that would be wonderful like they've had to pay some people for fracking they've had to put to pay some people off because he just ruined their their their neighborhood like there's people that live in places like fully toxic now yes what do you Jamie

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I saw this the other day this is from the original spill and 2004 it's been going on consistently oh yeah it's still leaking they said the 14 year old Gulf oil spills leaking up to 4,500 gallons a day they found that it was many many times more oil was leaking out than they thought it was so that's still that's going into the ocean right now from that stupid oil pipeline yeah the quicker that someone figures out alternative energy that's kind of what I'm saying it's like the it needs to happen this is ridiculous it's just it's everyone's doing the easy thing right now and it's just feeding the again the the capitalist machine is just like no that's okay that's acceptable well you and I have righteous virtue because we drive electric vehicles occasionally that's that's true I do feel a little bit better I feel better than people are drawing my Tesla hmm you assholes yeah whatever poisoning the world you know I feel I only feel better driving my Tesla only in that

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it's just faster it's just faster than almost everything on the road yeah it's like time machine that's the at that's exactly what I call it I always say like if there's a location that I want to go to I appear there yeah I don't ask ol jr. over there he's just like and you have the P 100 D is the one I have which is the monster one yeah he's and it's meanwhile that fucking new thing that they're coming out with it the roaster I really want to get one for a second faster 0 to 60 yeah it's how well 11.9 1.8 theoretically 1.8 seconds 0-60 has changed his his take on that I think he recently said it's 2.10 you serious yes okay we're very disappointed very disappointed cuz you gotta break the to bury what kind of nonsense is this I know where's my point where is my tenth of a second it ain't gonna matter kids a fucking thing's ridiculous are you kidding it's just a second weapon yeah it's insane but it also has 600 mile range yes that's what I heard which is just insane to me I just love that it's a tiny

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your car it's like the fastest thing ever ever there's only going to be maybe three other road-legal cars that you could buy that would get to that that level supercars are going to look obsolete compared to that oh yeah I mean well the thing I'm excited about is dependent Farina electric car whoo well designed completely in-house and I don't know when it comes out but I don't know if you find a picture of it is the nastiest piece of tech don't let the Italians make the engine though trust yeah I don't think so I think they're leveraging like not let my people design things you let them design the way it looks but all the wires they're barely paying attention standard girls asses heating spaghetti then I guarantee you that's so funny that's so true you like Germans and Japanese make reliable cars yeah they make their Engineers now they're good at whoa damn that is a goddamn Batmobile actually be nasty wow that's a real car oh yeah what

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coming out I think orders are happening there you go that's it five million Jesus that's an iced yeah after all this money coming active are has how many shakes are there I mean come on that the get that fucking the any bars a little bit of like Ferrari LaFerrari as a lot of Japanese styling it has a it's the perfect blend of like all the good things about like Tech looking car know what it's like it's like a Ferrari 488 yes but one that fuck 1900 a Lexus LFA oh yeah yeah that's yeah I got that hundred 100 how many Newton pounds of torque I know what I have to say whenever they say that newton-meters I don't get it those European ones I'm like what are you saying I don't feel it all I know is what is high and then I base it off of that it's funny to that we still use horses I know I'll stupid as I look at that thing is people power less than two seconds so that's like the but it's an electric vehicle yeah

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sure she's biting house one coming out that looks really cool because a hundred and eighty miles an hour a hundred eighty six miles an hour and 12 seconds said Jesus Christ so 12 seconds later you're going a hundred eighty six miles an hour that we couldn't control cockpit that's what I like about cars like that I like better look amazing it's a fucking house and the house you know what else in the Hills I'd get it wow if I could I'd get it would you oh yeah easily I definitely want to get the roads I'm thinking about the Roadster I'm getting that bitch you got to man come on got to I mean it's not that I mean for 250 Grand no you're getting a car that like that's that's what does that was it again what you keep telling us Jamie you just flip into the union pay attention now check out this is Jamie's on a route a rabbit hole he went down to you to Brown and see what with lotus was doing the other one was said pull the ribbon for rope stir put the oh yeah that thing's badass what is the other one ra Mak concept to oh I don't know it's a handle for the Roadster

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you just oh yeah you slide your finger down yeah Pops I mean who knows let's get this is stranded in the pot it's not it's not using that steering wheel I don't know why they do that they do that for concept cars they know side view mirrors which now is actually becoming legal which is great - I have no side view mirrors because it looks sexier but so what it looks more Sleek does it really bother you that's like if you get it dude and girls really hot but she has a chip tooth oh no no no that makes that makes that makes it better that's like--that's character man yeah beautiful so why do you need why don't you want side mirrors I want to see it just creates a cleaner line fuck a clean line I want to see what's going on what have youd I want to see what's behind me man well the new Honda all-electric car that's basically kind of like a like a golf kind of Annie golf but it's a fully new car it's got its got the camera system with the side view mirrors they're just right on the edge of the - right where the mirrors kind of would be and the guy the guy who was doing a review of it one of the few guys has gotten to drive it said that it just blows

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away you're like why have a car has been like this forever because it gives you an accurate full-time view what's going on and the rearview mirrors also a screen maybe now you can test was no pillars no pillars what what you laughing at me front of this car what am I make it funny in it no go back to the hassle look this was always some Honda it's cute e go bad like it it's also got the most ridiculous turning radius it's turns tighter than a London cab yeah because it's got a stick in the ground yeah just it turns out some hole in the ground and then it just rotates yeah yeah the roadsters is evil I don't think it's really gonna come out in 2020 I don't think so either I think it's gonna get pushed back yeah but it's just such a gorgeous it does have some active Aero I think in the the spoilers active it stays cool looking it looks like what a car supposed to look like in 2020 exactly yes Reggie Watts let's wrap this bad boy up let's do it people want to follow you on social media as I Possible only if they want to

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