The anti-CEO playbook | Hamdi Ulukaya
May 4, 2020
Profit, money, shareholders: these are the priorities of most companies today. But at what cost? In an appeal to corporate leaders worldwide, Chobani founder Hamdi Ulukaya calls for an end to the business playbook of the past -- and shares his vision for a new, "anti-CEO playbook" that prioritizes people over profits. "This is the difference between profit and true wealth," he says.
this Ted Talk features yogurt maker and humanitarian Hamdi ulukaya recorded live at Ted 2019 hello it's Chris Anderson here host of the Ted interview podcast on the next episode singer-songwriter artist Amanda Palmer we discuss what she predicts for the future generation of artists and the intention behind her radical openness you use yourself as a vessel to
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► 00:00:44a cold January day of 2005 I took one of my most important Drive of my life
► 00:00:53I was on this road in Upstate New York
► 00:00:58trying to find this old factory
► 00:01:02and they before I received a flyer in the mail and said fully equipped yogurt plant for sale
► 00:01:10I throw it in the garbage can
► 00:01:12and 20 minutes later I picked it up and call the number
► 00:01:18Platt was 85 years old
► 00:01:20and it was closing
► 00:01:22so I decided to go see it
► 00:01:26at this time I wasn't sure where this road or my life is going
► 00:01:33I own a small cheese shop but really hated business
► 00:01:39but the hills and the roads in the smells is also familiar
► 00:01:45I grew up in Turkey the similar environment near the Kurdish mountains my family make cheese and yogurt I grew up listening Shepard stories
► 00:01:56we didn't have much but we had the moon and the stars simple food each other
► 00:02:03eventually I came to America I didn't even know New York had Farms
► 00:02:09I made it to Upstate and I never left
► 00:02:13now I'm lost
► 00:02:17I passed the road sign said dead end
► 00:02:22and soon after there was the factory
► 00:02:29the smell hit me first it was like a milk container left out in the sun
► 00:02:35the walls were so thick
► 00:02:38pays for peeling the cracks everywhere
► 00:02:43the factory was so old the owners thought it was worthless
► 00:02:48I thought they left a zero off couldn't I couldn't believe the price
► 00:02:56as they entered in
► 00:02:59I stopped focusing things I stopped noticing things all I could see were the people
► 00:03:06there were 55 of them
► 00:03:09The Squire their only job was to break the plant apart and close it forever
► 00:03:18I was met with a guy named rich
► 00:03:21production manager
► 00:03:24you offered to take me around show me around he didn't say much but around every corner he would point out some stories
► 00:03:33Rich worked there for 20 years his father made yogurt before him and his grandfather made cream cheese before that
► 00:03:41you could tell that rich felt guilty
► 00:03:46that this Factory was closing on his watch
► 00:03:54what hit me the hardest at that time
► 00:03:58that this wasn't just an old factory this was a time machine
► 00:04:04this is where people build lives they left for Wars they brag about home runs and record cards
► 00:04:12but now it was closing
► 00:04:15and the company wasn't just giving up on yogurt it was giving up on them
► 00:04:22as if they were not good enough
► 00:04:27and I was shocked how these people were behaving
► 00:04:31they were no anger there was no tears
► 00:04:35just silence with Grace they were closing this Factory
► 00:04:43I was so angry
► 00:04:47that the CEO of far away
► 00:04:51you know Tower or somewhere looking at the spreadsheet and closing the factory
► 00:04:58splashes are lazy
► 00:05:01they don't tell you about people they don't tell you about communities but unfortunately this is how too many business decisions are made today
► 00:05:15I was never the same person after what I saw on my way back home I called Mario my lawyer
► 00:05:25I called Mario I said Mario I want to buy this buy this place
► 00:05:30Mario said handy one of the largest food company in the world is closing this place
► 00:05:37and they getting out of yogurt business who the hell are you to make it work
► 00:05:43I said you're right
► 00:05:45but the next day I called him again I said Mario really I really want to buy this place
► 00:05:50he's a ham do you have no money
► 00:05:53you haven't even paid me in six months which was true
► 00:05:58but I got alone and other loan by August 2005 I had the keys for this Factory
► 00:06:06the first thing I did was to hire four of the original 55 people I have Maria office manager I had Frank the Wastewater guy I had Mike the maintenance guy and Rich will show me the plant production guy and we had our first board meeting
► 00:06:25Mike says I'm the well we going to do now they look at me as if I have the magic answer
► 00:06:32so I said Mike
► 00:06:34we're going to go to Ace Hardware Store
► 00:06:37and we're going to get some paints
► 00:06:40and we want to paint the walls outside
► 00:06:43Mike wasn't impressed he looked at me he said humbly that's fine we'll do that but tell me you have more ideas than that
► 00:06:54I said I do
► 00:06:56will paint the walls white
► 00:06:59honest to God that was the only ideas I had
► 00:07:04but we painted those walls that summer
► 00:07:10I sometimes wonder what they would have said to me if I told them
► 00:07:15see these walls were painting in two years we're going to launch a yogurt here that Americans never seen and never tasted before would be delicious it would be natural and we're going to call it Chobani it means Shepherd in Turkish
► 00:07:33and if I said
► 00:07:35we were going to hire all of the 55 employees back almost of them back and then hundred more after and a hundred more after and then thousand more after that but if I told them you see that town over there every person be hired 10 more local jobs will be created the town will come back to life the trucks will be all over the roads and the first body we make we're going to build one of the best Little League baseball field for our children
► 00:08:01and five years after that we're going to be the number one Greek yogurt brand in the country
► 00:08:06would they have believed me
► 00:08:09of course not
► 00:08:11but that's exactly what happened
► 00:08:20in painting those walls we got to know each other
► 00:08:26we believed in each other
► 00:08:28and we figured it out together
► 00:08:34five years me and all my colleagues we never left the factory
► 00:08:39we work day and night to the holidays to fix that plant
► 00:08:46the best part of Chobani for me is this the same exact people who were giving up on were the ones build it back 100 times better than before
► 00:08:59and they all have a financial stake in the company today
► 00:09:09and all these times I kept wondering see another businessman I don't come from that tradition I just kept wondering what is this all about
► 00:09:20the corporate America says it's about profits mainstream business says about money to see your play book says about shareholders and there's so much is sacrifice for it it's factories communities jobs but not by CEOs
► 00:09:36CEOs have their employees suffer for them but yet to CEOs pay up goes up and up and up and so many peoples are left behind
► 00:09:48I'm here to tell you no more it's not right it's never been right
► 00:09:55it's time to admit that the Playbook that guided businesses and CEOs for the last 40 years is broken
► 00:10:07it tells you everything about business except how to be a noble leader
► 00:10:15we need a new playbook we need a new playbook that sees people again that sees above and beyond profits
► 00:10:26in the movies they have a name for people who take a different path to do things right they call them anti-heroes I think we need the same idea in business we need anti CEOs and we need fantasy your playbook so let me tell you about what is a fantasy your playbook is all about
► 00:10:47Auntie CEO Playbook is about gratitude
► 00:10:51today's Business book says business exist to maximize profit for the shareholders
► 00:10:58I think that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life
► 00:11:02in reality business should take care of their employees first
► 00:11:12you know few years ago when we announced that we are going to have given shares to all our 2,000 employees some people said it's you know PR some said it's a gift I said it's not a gift
► 00:11:26I washed it I've been part of it they earned it with their talent and their hard work and I don't see any other way
► 00:11:34the new way of business it's your employees you take care of first
► 00:11:39not the prophets
► 00:11:42the new anti-seizure Playbook is about community
► 00:11:48today the businesses that have it all as for communities what kind of tax breaks and incentives you can give me
► 00:11:56the reality is businesses should go to the struggling communities and ask how can I help you
► 00:12:06you know then we wanted to build a second yogurt plant Idaho was in nobody's radar screen it was to roll too far away didn't have much incentives so I went there
► 00:12:20I met with the local people I met with the farmers we shook hands with broke bread I said I want to build it right here I don't need to see financial studies
► 00:12:32the result
► 00:12:35this community is striving its new schools are open every year Platz new food companies are coming up every year
► 00:12:44and they told me you're not going to find any trained workers here I said it's okay we'll teach them we partner with the local Community College
► 00:12:53and while we were building the plant we trained hundreds of hundreds of people for advanced manufacturing and today our Factory is one of the largest yogurt plant in the world
► 00:13:07the new way of business
► 00:13:09communities go search for communities that you can be part of ask for permission and be be with them open the walls and succeed together
► 00:13:23the anti see your playbook is about responsibility today's Playbook says the businesses should stay out of Politics the reality is businesses as citizens must take a site
► 00:13:37when we were growing in New York and looking for more people to hire I remembered in Utica an hour away they were refugees from Southeast Asia and Africa were looking for a place to work
► 00:13:54they all speak English someone told me I said I don't really either let's get translators
► 00:14:02they don't have transportation's I said let's get buses is not a rocket science
► 00:14:07today
► 00:14:10one of the America's rural areas 30% of Chobani Workforce are immigrants and refugees
► 00:14:22any changes for better
► 00:14:25do new way of business it's business not government is in the best position to make a change in today's world in gun violence in in climate change in income inequality in refugees in race it's business must take a side
► 00:14:47and lastly fantasy your playbook is about accountability
► 00:14:54today's Playbook says the see your reports to the board's corporate boards in my opinion see your reports to consumer
► 00:15:03the first few years of Chobani the 1-800 number was in the cup was my personal number
► 00:15:09when somebody called and wrote I responded personally sometimes I made it changes based on what I heard
► 00:15:18because consumer is in power
► 00:15:21that's the reason the business exists
► 00:15:26it's you every single one of you is in the power to make a changes today if you don't like the brand and the companies what they are doing with their business you can throw them into the garbage can and if you see the ones that doing it right you can reward them
► 00:15:42in the end this is all in our responsibility to deliver your business its consumer report to not to the corporate boards you see
► 00:15:53if you are right with your people
► 00:15:58if you're right with your community if you're right with your product you will be more profitable you will be more Innovative you will have more passionate people working for you and the community that supports you and that's what the anti see your play book is all about
► 00:16:18the treasure that I found in that factory
► 00:16:25Dignity of work strike of character human Spirit what we need to unleash all across the world
► 00:16:37brothers and sisters
► 00:16:40there are people and places all around the world
► 00:16:47left out and left behind
► 00:16:49but their spirit is still strong
► 00:16:55they just want another chance they want someone to give them a chance again not to just build it back but build it better than before
► 00:17:05and this is the difference between return on investment and return on kindness
► 00:17:13this is the difference between profit and true wealth
► 00:17:21and if you can happen
► 00:17:23in Upstate New York in a small town Upstate New York in Idaho it can happen in every city and town and Village across the world
► 00:17:33this is not the time to build walls this is a time to start painting the walls I live the colors all after you thank you so much
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