The anti-CEO playbook | Hamdi Ulukaya

May 4, 2020

Profit, money, shareholders: these are the priorities of most companies today. But at what cost? In an appeal to corporate leaders worldwide, Chobani founder Hamdi Ulukaya calls for an end to the business playbook of the past -- and shares his vision for a new, "anti-CEO playbook" that prioritizes people over profits. "This is the difference between profit and true wealth," he says.

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this Ted Talk features yogurt maker and humanitarian Hamdi ulukaya recorded live at Ted 2019 hello it's Chris Anderson here host of the Ted interview podcast on the next episode singer-songwriter artist Amanda Palmer we discuss what she predicts for the future generation of artists and the intention behind her radical openness you use yourself as a vessel to

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a cold January day of 2005 I took one of my most important Drive of my life

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I was on this road in Upstate New York

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trying to find this old factory

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and they before I received a flyer in the mail and said fully equipped yogurt plant for sale

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I throw it in the garbage can

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and 20 minutes later I picked it up and call the number

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Platt was 85 years old

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and it was closing

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so I decided to go see it

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at this time I wasn't sure where this road or my life is going

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I own a small cheese shop but really hated business

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but the hills and the roads in the smells is also familiar

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I grew up in Turkey the similar environment near the Kurdish mountains my family make cheese and yogurt I grew up listening Shepard stories

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we didn't have much but we had the moon and the stars simple food each other

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eventually I came to America I didn't even know New York had Farms

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I made it to Upstate and I never left

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now I'm lost

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I passed the road sign said dead end

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and soon after there was the factory

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the smell hit me first it was like a milk container left out in the sun

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the walls were so thick

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pays for peeling the cracks everywhere

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the factory was so old the owners thought it was worthless

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I thought they left a zero off couldn't I couldn't believe the price

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as they entered in

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I stopped focusing things I stopped noticing things all I could see were the people

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there were 55 of them

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The Squire their only job was to break the plant apart and close it forever

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I was met with a guy named rich

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production manager

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you offered to take me around show me around he didn't say much but around every corner he would point out some stories

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Rich worked there for 20 years his father made yogurt before him and his grandfather made cream cheese before that

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you could tell that rich felt guilty

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that this Factory was closing on his watch

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what hit me the hardest at that time

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that this wasn't just an old factory this was a time machine

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this is where people build lives they left for Wars they brag about home runs and record cards

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but now it was closing

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and the company wasn't just giving up on yogurt it was giving up on them

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as if they were not good enough

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and I was shocked how these people were behaving

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they were no anger there was no tears

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just silence with Grace they were closing this Factory

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I was so angry

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that the CEO of far away

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you know Tower or somewhere looking at the spreadsheet and closing the factory

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splashes are lazy

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they don't tell you about people they don't tell you about communities but unfortunately this is how too many business decisions are made today

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I was never the same person after what I saw on my way back home I called Mario my lawyer

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I called Mario I said Mario I want to buy this buy this place

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Mario said handy one of the largest food company in the world is closing this place

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and they getting out of yogurt business who the hell are you to make it work

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I said you're right

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but the next day I called him again I said Mario really I really want to buy this place

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he's a ham do you have no money

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you haven't even paid me in six months which was true

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but I got alone and other loan by August 2005 I had the keys for this Factory

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the first thing I did was to hire four of the original 55 people I have Maria office manager I had Frank the Wastewater guy I had Mike the maintenance guy and Rich will show me the plant production guy and we had our first board meeting

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Mike says I'm the well we going to do now they look at me as if I have the magic answer

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so I said Mike

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we're going to go to Ace Hardware Store

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and we're going to get some paints

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and we want to paint the walls outside

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Mike wasn't impressed he looked at me he said humbly that's fine we'll do that but tell me you have more ideas than that

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I said I do

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will paint the walls white

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honest to God that was the only ideas I had

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but we painted those walls that summer

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I sometimes wonder what they would have said to me if I told them

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see these walls were painting in two years we're going to launch a yogurt here that Americans never seen and never tasted before would be delicious it would be natural and we're going to call it Chobani it means Shepherd in Turkish

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and if I said

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we were going to hire all of the 55 employees back almost of them back and then hundred more after and a hundred more after and then thousand more after that but if I told them you see that town over there every person be hired 10 more local jobs will be created the town will come back to life the trucks will be all over the roads and the first body we make we're going to build one of the best Little League baseball field for our children

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and five years after that we're going to be the number one Greek yogurt brand in the country

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would they have believed me

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of course not

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but that's exactly what happened

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in painting those walls we got to know each other

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we believed in each other

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and we figured it out together

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five years me and all my colleagues we never left the factory

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we work day and night to the holidays to fix that plant

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the best part of Chobani for me is this the same exact people who were giving up on were the ones build it back 100 times better than before

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and they all have a financial stake in the company today

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and all these times I kept wondering see another businessman I don't come from that tradition I just kept wondering what is this all about

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the corporate America says it's about profits mainstream business says about money to see your play book says about shareholders and there's so much is sacrifice for it it's factories communities jobs but not by CEOs

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CEOs have their employees suffer for them but yet to CEOs pay up goes up and up and up and so many peoples are left behind

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I'm here to tell you no more it's not right it's never been right

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it's time to admit that the Playbook that guided businesses and CEOs for the last 40 years is broken

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it tells you everything about business except how to be a noble leader

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we need a new playbook we need a new playbook that sees people again that sees above and beyond profits

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in the movies they have a name for people who take a different path to do things right they call them anti-heroes I think we need the same idea in business we need anti CEOs and we need fantasy your playbook so let me tell you about what is a fantasy your playbook is all about

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Auntie CEO Playbook is about gratitude

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today's Business book says business exist to maximize profit for the shareholders

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I think that's the dumbest idea I've ever heard in my life

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in reality business should take care of their employees first

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you know few years ago when we announced that we are going to have given shares to all our 2,000 employees some people said it's you know PR some said it's a gift I said it's not a gift

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I washed it I've been part of it they earned it with their talent and their hard work and I don't see any other way

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the new way of business it's your employees you take care of first

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not the prophets

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the new anti-seizure Playbook is about community

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today the businesses that have it all as for communities what kind of tax breaks and incentives you can give me

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the reality is businesses should go to the struggling communities and ask how can I help you

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you know then we wanted to build a second yogurt plant Idaho was in nobody's radar screen it was to roll too far away didn't have much incentives so I went there

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I met with the local people I met with the farmers we shook hands with broke bread I said I want to build it right here I don't need to see financial studies

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the result

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this community is striving its new schools are open every year Platz new food companies are coming up every year

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and they told me you're not going to find any trained workers here I said it's okay we'll teach them we partner with the local Community College

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and while we were building the plant we trained hundreds of hundreds of people for advanced manufacturing and today our Factory is one of the largest yogurt plant in the world

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the new way of business

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communities go search for communities that you can be part of ask for permission and be be with them open the walls and succeed together

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the anti see your playbook is about responsibility today's Playbook says the businesses should stay out of Politics the reality is businesses as citizens must take a site

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when we were growing in New York and looking for more people to hire I remembered in Utica an hour away they were refugees from Southeast Asia and Africa were looking for a place to work

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they all speak English someone told me I said I don't really either let's get translators

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they don't have transportation's I said let's get buses is not a rocket science

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today

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one of the America's rural areas 30% of Chobani Workforce are immigrants and refugees

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any changes for better

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do new way of business it's business not government is in the best position to make a change in today's world in gun violence in in climate change in income inequality in refugees in race it's business must take a side

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and lastly fantasy your playbook is about accountability

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today's Playbook says the see your reports to the board's corporate boards in my opinion see your reports to consumer

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the first few years of Chobani the 1-800 number was in the cup was my personal number

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when somebody called and wrote I responded personally sometimes I made it changes based on what I heard

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because consumer is in power

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that's the reason the business exists

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it's you every single one of you is in the power to make a changes today if you don't like the brand and the companies what they are doing with their business you can throw them into the garbage can and if you see the ones that doing it right you can reward them

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in the end this is all in our responsibility to deliver your business its consumer report to not to the corporate boards you see

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if you are right with your people

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if you're right with your community if you're right with your product you will be more profitable you will be more Innovative you will have more passionate people working for you and the community that supports you and that's what the anti see your play book is all about

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the treasure that I found in that factory

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Dignity of work strike of character human Spirit what we need to unleash all across the world

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brothers and sisters

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there are people and places all around the world

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left out and left behind

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but their spirit is still strong

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they just want another chance they want someone to give them a chance again not to just build it back but build it better than before

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and this is the difference between return on investment and return on kindness

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this is the difference between profit and true wealth

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and if you can happen

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in Upstate New York in a small town Upstate New York in Idaho it can happen in every city and town and Village across the world

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this is not the time to build walls this is a time to start painting the walls I live the colors all after you thank you so much

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