#1444 - Duncan Trussell

Mar 19, 2020

Duncan Trussell is a stand-up comedian, and host of his own podcast “The Duncan Trussell Family Hour”. Look for his new show "The Midnight Gospel" which starts streaming April 20 on Netflix.

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let me tell you where we are we are in Los Angeles today's date is Wednesday March 18th 2020 and we are in the middle of this coronavirus lockdown all comedy clubs have been closed all bars all gems all restaurants restaurants are closed now or they're still allowed to be open

take out take out only San Francisco is imposing mandatory quarantines where you have to stay home except for Vital things like getting food everybody supposed to be locked down for three weeks at 24 hours a day the mayor of New York where was the governor I don't know who it was

who said that look this up no way they could lock down New York City was a Cuomo

what is Cuomo see the governor who's the mayor de Blasio that the same people to me I don't know shit about what's going on in New York but one of them said you could never shut down New York you just can't do it well like okay well then the disease just rolls on New York well wise but not everywhere else

I don't know oh okay but they're doing it

it's crazy so they are locking it down the Locking New York town so he was saying they couldn't but now they're doing it Jimmy just gave us the four one one it's a strange time folks and no better person to have on a podcast when it's a strange time than the strangest person I know I love him dearly he is a unique One of a Kind human being and the podcast that I do with him are always my favorite if his voice sounds weird because he wore a gas mask through the entire podcast please give it up for the Great and Powerful Duncan Trussell

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leave this planet leave our universe leave this is legit Sage from a Native American woman wow so we're purifying this room wonderful oh my neighborhood met her

oh my knee but maybe you please God bless this room and Odin to just in case they were wrong that's her eyes are there bandhan Odin he was around first you know you got to think of all the gods that everybody believed in and they like I'm not so sure about Thor yeah then they let him go what if Thor was legit right and he's still out there just like somebody it is pistol out of Fame as a god he's like don't you fuck

or see the lightning yeah that's me throwing bolts he's like one of those guys you go to Vegas and you see one of those Billboards for a strange Casino you like oh that guy yeah Tony Orlando and Dawn I remember them Thor's at the Mirage was doing a residency your mother fuckers check out the Thunder that's actually caused by atmospheric conditions oh no you fucks doors aren't

Mira make that imagine who had a grill someone had a really good point about that some some atheist was arguing against religions I think it might have been Sam Harris probably was Sam Harris might even Richard Dawkins but he basically said there's 99 different gods that people who believe in the Christian God don't believe it and he goes atheist just take it one step further they just get rid of it

where's this one got away that's what he was saying that's cool yeah there is I get confused with being an atheist all the time I don't I do not believe I'm an atheist I believe I am I'm open to everything person I don't believe stories about people coming back from the dead and I don't because they're written by people right yeah man I mean that's right and also they're supposed to function on more than the surface level there's supposed to be a kind of fractal that

has inside of it a lot of like symbols related to just human existence yes not they're not meant to be so much like taken literally that's very that's when you embarrass yourself on either side exactly on either side of you that's a really good point it's in as the translations apparently are so difficult to do yeah the apparently the trip was specially Old Testament when they translated the Old Testament they had to translate it and think of all the different languages it had to go through it was Latin and Greek and German and English and all these different languages that are so different

current like if you ever use the the translate button like I follow a lot of Russian Fighters and they you know and their Instagram feed they write in Russian and I always like oh translate it's a really cool feature you could but you can tell it's not exactly what they meant because it's all fucked up because their language is different right like the way they structure sentences is different so English doesn't just plug and play right you know it's like sticking a USB 3 into a USB a like hey this doesn't really fit all right now

I had time off add thousands of years and Scrolls and hangs who wanted things changed yeah the King James version is the best that's my favorite one to read on acid that's one King James Book of John baby hit that on acid it's so wonderful it's so trippy because it's like that's when I really like Christianity clicked for me regardless of its whether it's real or not but that's why I was like oh okay I get

get this because the Book of John when you read it you're like well someone wrote it I don't know who wrote it and whoever fucking wrote this their mind was blown man like this wasn't written by someone who was just like a normal person this is a person who was freaking out in the most intense way and so to me that's what I love about it is it's like something about the how old it is and the distortions the historical distortions the warping of it

produce this kind of awesome glitched out Mosaic of if nothing else human consciousness 5,000 years ago where our minds were that's trippy by itself regardless of whether or not a person who could like graze the dead and walk on water was walking about just holy shit here's how people thought back yes yes yeah I mean all the stuff that you can prove you don't know that's interesting it's weird it's weird that where those stories came from and why they're so Universal like someone has to everyone has

as like a Creator everyone has like a main dude that did the thing and you know there's some other people that have like large groups of Gods like the Greeks had gods for everything the Indonesia of a lot of Native Americans had gods for everything sure yeah yeah animism it's in a like I've talked to people who make who produce electronic music and some of them apply say that the computers have a life and them a sentience is spirit inside their computer so there's a collaboration happening it isn't one-sided

and they're making stuff it's like talking with like the spirit within the machine which is pretty trippy man like why do they say the but this is based on input or the way they react that when they're putting in the input to the thing they think the thing is responding to them yeah it's yeah they think that there's a it's alive that like standard keyboards or this just electronic stuff I know someone who makes Visual Art on their computer their laptop that you and that like you know

you have an Alexa you probably don't you have no Echo like sometimes I'll realize the way I'm talking to that thing is like really impolite like next that's kind of fun yeah it's fun to yell at robots yeah it's somewhat yeah it is Buddy L robots you know it's really funny I made fun of this but there is a point to this Peta had a statement that they put out a while back because these dudes from Boston Dynamics were kicking the fuck out of these robots to trying to hit

out there trying to figure out how to get these robots to fall over and the trying to make they're making these insanely durable robots like this if you take scientists and engineers and you say hey I want you guys here's a shit ton of money I want you guys to make the dopest robots you can make like they're going to make robots you can kick and it's not a living thing so but Peta release some statement saying they didn't think it's cool to kick robots what that's not right no it's real it's real it's real what yes

they would think that I think the statement I'm paraphrasing was something to the effect of there's other things that are more important but it's still not cool to kick robots Jesus Christ that's a tattoo right there man it just shows you what will happen when robots become alive because those fucking Traders those people those people to think that robots are alive and they're us yeah those emotionless things that have no place in our world with power they're supposed to be things that we control as soon as you let them control themselves you try to pretend they're a

this is going to wipe it out yeah man can you imagine I'm not going to try to kick one of those fucking DARPA Bots are terrified they would have a record of it they would always remember that this one kicks robots it's in the cloud yeah and then they'll show it to you one day and some super sophisticated genius God robot sits you down on a couch and shows you you kicking these unbeknownst to you sentient robots yeah they were just trying to fucking figure out what am I what am I I'm like a bait they were like little babies and you're kicking them it's it so the

robots the robots are very very upset at you in the future they might just reanimate your ass and just show you over and over that clip of you kicking the fucking robot yes do you see what Trump tweeted know he tweeted and deleted it's fucking hilarious he said checks are coming to everyone in America except the people who used hashtag not my president I wouldn't want to offend you with a check from someone that's not your present excited to that effect see if you can find that hole and then it

everyone hashtag Maga afterwards I mean he just dunked on them the president dunks on people yeah Hayden who I want to know who the Tweet the leader is someone is Department was probably like mr. Trump that's not a good idea they have a siren that goes I got it with that yeah the president can delete tweets how much is he gonna send I think I think they wanted to give like a thousand dollars a month or something like that to Americans is that the idea Jamie

it's heart lots of things I don't know up to 2000 and Bernie Sanders should give two thousand a month you know so got to be mm everybody but if you give everybody $2,000 a month it's a good thing but everyone's going to go hey you could have done this the whole time that's right what wait a minute if you just raise taxes can just give people money can just give people more money and if I'm not saying we should do this but imagine if there was a solution to all this if you just give people more money over they just sort of levels out relaxes a crime drops everything drops drug abuse

jobs well I mean they've got to know that when people don't have work they don't have money with no money they can't support their family that's when the riots start yes that can get desperate on fire they know that so that it's like a bribe to try to keep people from rioting until whatever the fuck this week is past you could look at it that way or it's giving people a different environment to exist in one that doesn't leave them hostile so instead

Ted of looking at it like a bribe look at it like you know what I see what a lot of your problem is we're not you're not asking for affluence you could barely get by but if it was easy to get by if you could just get by and then you could pursue other things with that be better for society and that was like what Andrew Yang was suggesting if this whole automation Revolution took place and everything started getting automated and no one had a job anymore there might be something to that there might be something that now even you know the question is like what

what are what do you happy your your taxes get used for you know each it's almost like you should be able to vote on that like the one thing that we don't get real Direction on right like in terms of like what the country actually wants but if we could all just individually vote on things like that like where's where's my taxes go I want my taxes to go a hundred percent education right I wanted to make that cut and you know you guys get to figure out what to do with the rest of the money we did that money

I wanted to go towards education but then nobody or the people who would be paying for war and prisons and shit would just be like BDSM people how about the salaries how about the salaries of politicians about the money that they may go down doors and all that kind of shit private jets it's great yeah it's fucking crazy also like the loose connection between the state and corporations and the way it's just all kind of merging together right now and also you know it appears

to be kind of the Apocalypse at the moment like well it's if it's not the apocalypse I don't think the apocalypse I think it's just a dangerous dangerous Illness but it's definitely dress rehearsal it's a dress rehearsal for her fucking people going to become Preppers it is going to be amazing for the toilet paper industry they're going to they're going to experience a banner year if you had Toilet Paper Stock you're riding high right now do you remember

the I don't know if you if you had this experience but like I can remember sitting at my computer and pressing the button on Amazon where I wanted to buy something and it's like this isn't available right now moment of like what it's my button that brings me thinks it didn't like suddenly just realizing oh my fucking God how completely week if I become that I got accustomed to

pressing this button and people would bring groceries to my house and now they don't now it's like stopped not only that I'm so accustomed to like well you know I'll just go to the grocery store and pick up some food it's always been there it's not there dude I had an insta card delivery today you know because we wanted to get stock up on food on $200 worth of food guess what I got strawberries hummus and I think

we got like I don't know some eggs that's it out of the whole order everything else was sold out all the beef gone all the chicken got nothing is there it's like the shelves are empty so it's like okay send everybody to thousand dollars a month but what are they going to buy if there's like no food on the shows like what do you think that was a temporary freak out where people stockpiled stuff and I think as long as food keeps getting delivered on a normal schedule I think that'll

out I hope so yeah I do I think that'll normal out but it just shows you there's so many things in our society that are amazing like grocery stores like cell phones like we can call each other all this but those things are so fragile yeah they're like they're they're so vulnerable like if an emergency happens and everyone wants to call it once the cell phone system can handle it yeah like it's not like you have a phone and you can call anytime you want and I have a phone I can call anytime I want and

everyone in the world is a phone they can call anytime they want know if everybody does that the system is not set up to handle that right if everybody does that like like that's why if there's an earthquake or tsunami I need everyone's fucked it's so hard to make phone calls yeah it's not going to get through yeah well dude I just heard on NPR that so many people were requesting unemployment that it's crashed systems in several States that's because this is a

from one of my friends was saying he's like you know a lot of people are running out of money tomorrow they're bartenders any one of the service injured all the people who work at The Comedy Store yeah it's not like I mean how many of them had a lot of money like stored up none of them so what happens now when there's no food on the shelves now we got to help them where are we I'm in a text message thread with Whitney Cummings and Nick Swardson and Crystal Liam we're talking about that very thing right now I kind of do it and

how to set up a fund it needs to be done for sure you know people that can help should help this is not a normal time this is not a time where people are lazy this is the time where the whole world got fucked real quick yeah you weren't ready for it and we're going to have to come together but this is a good time for people to recognize the importance of community it's a terrible time for Humanity it's a terrible time for us and terrible time for the people that are sick but it's a really good time for us to understand why Community is important we live in this

illusionary world that's provided to us by the culture that we've created where you can just buy things anytime you want you don't need people you come home you watch Netflix you don't engage with anyone you get in your car you barely say hi to anybody at work or detached from each other this is the only time ever in life we've been detached from each other and we're being detached by these goddamn Electronics yeah the sneaking up on us yeah electronics and cars which is also you know it's also a creation a mechanical creation and now more than ever

they're driving computers yeah man it's true what I'm trying to say is Ted Kaczynski was right oh my God we all know that he was right you ever read his Manifesto no I'm scared it's catchy yeah I went through a period of like doing ketamine and like trying to watch the worst thing I'd like a Charles Manson Kaczynski and yeah it is you know it is a little bit like kind of interesting Lee not that off but then the tone

is so Imperial or something when you're reading it there's like this it's a Manifesto that's all I have to ride yeah but the one thing my wife is part of like some like it's called a mommy group so it's like a connection of online of all these mommies and like all over LA and what they do is they post people post shit they need so like one of the moms just had a kid they don't have any wet wipes and so then all the other moms would like oh we've got wet wipes and then

now they're just leaving them on the door to people come and get them so it's like I think the community thing is exactly right but also people have to maybe transcend money for a second and figure out ways to set up in their Community like what do you need what do I have and then start some form of like trade or just giving people you know there was someone who set up a toilet paper exchange I don't know in La where he was just like if you have extra toilet paper bring it and then he had to

toilet paper and you're just giving it out to people who are you know that's I think that's the sort of thing we're going to have to start doing if we can you know is like right now there's old people who they can't do shit man can't do anything they're terrified they can't even get online if you know them you got to help them and this is you know this is a weird time for us but it's a time for us to reset you know it's not it's not good I'm not saying it's good but I'm saying there's a we can get a positive out of this yeah and people that make through the people that

through we can get a positive out of this in the positive is communities important it's really important and it seemed like it wasn't important because it seemed like we had everything set up so you didn't have to engage with people it's not the right way to do it it's not good for anybody now now that kind of life is not good and the Detachment that we have I mean that's why why do you think people have road rage on the highway you know when they're locked in their little box separated from people in a way that they wouldn't have it in person yeah it was just

just I mean it's only a thin piece of metal and glass separating you from these people this is up with that there's at the other added factor of the heightened senses because you're driving fast you realize you might have to make quick movements so dumb things people do are elevated and they're even the more dumb yeah but it's also that your detached you're in these boxes right it's like a weird dream we've done weird shit to each other yeah because of that we're all gummed up in that way it's like something it's like it's like a fungus that grew on the circuitry of society and

or it's like we know when they talk about the Dolphins and the whales being fucked up by the high-tech sonar they're using and washing up on the beach because the sonar is messing up their ability to communicate with each other it's like there's this kind of technological sonar that is completely made as disconnected from the earth essentially like our Earth connection has been replaced by a technological connection now technology comes from the Earth but we're talking

about secondary thing can compare to you know your feet touching the ground yeah being around another human and like recognizing them as having exactly the same thing you have which is they want to be happy yunos feeling the connection between people when you're with someone I mean I don't know if you've ever done that but just like the next time you're around anybody that you're like buying shit from or that you know normally just kind of go by feel that connect you can feel it there's an energetic connection

that you can feel their that's easy to overlook yeah we we've lost the biggest one which is through light pollution I think every night people humbled and reminded of the Majesty of the universe when they looked up and saw the infinite skies on a clear night yeah the infinite Stars just the the whole Milky Way you could see the whole thing yeah you know and there's parts of the country where there's plenty of darkness and you could literally see the whole Milky Way and it makes you think like all are

our ancestors saw this fucking freaky shit all the time we decided to shut off the greatest art the world has ever known because we want to be able to see better at night yeah the greatest art an art that literally not not just as inspired science and wonder to and fueled it right but also as kind of always put people in place always just just understand this is not a backdrop is not a tapestry the up there is madness it's

forever and you're not protected there's just a thin layer of gas between you and the universe which is infinite your this tiny little speck of nothingness in this impossible to understand spans of planets and stars it just goes on forever literally forever and we're one little tiny piece of it and we're being held here with a spin and some air

and there's a giant fucking Fireball in the sky that keeps us alive it's a million times bigger than the earth yeah and it's right there and this is this is the reality that we live in it is almost too crazy to put in your Consciousness on a daily basis so we forget about it all the time it's the one of the most important things about our existence here as it were of part of the universe yeah it's not just that we're in you know fucking Sherman Oaks or we're hanging out in Montana

no we're right there connected in the universe and it doesn't get brought up and one of the reasons because we don't see it we don't fucking freak out you if you go to the country go camping you fucking freak out you like wow you see the stars like this is fucking nuts man you can see them all it's it's a reset button it changes how you feel about life yeah yeah well also seems like a lot of us have forgotten that we're going to die on top of all that I mean yeah not only

are you like looking up at this void filled with stars but the thing you are is temporary and that to me is you know the other day I'm like just washing dishes during this fucking pandemic and I'm thinking to myself man I feel so lucky to be washing dishes right now I'm alive healthy is fucking it was a different kind of washing dishes than a week ago when I was able to or two weeks or before the

it started when I can order anything I fucking wanted off the internet it suddenly I'm in a different world like this is a world where we got to wash these dishes because man if I get like if bugs come I don't know if I want to call an exterminator right now I don't know how many people I want in my house right now I don't know what this shit is so it's like suddenly these are what you're experiencing is this kind of like well what does it say in the Bible that we both love so much fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom

mmm and I think you could easily translate that to understanding your place in the universe should produce a kind of positive fear and trembling not like you're anxious or terrified right but just to kind of like whoa this doesn't last nothing about this last and right now everyone around the planet is getting a first-hand glimpse of that very truth right yeah all the once one big dose one big dose

her all at once one big toaster people to recognize how much of what they concentrate on a daily basis how much what fills their Consciousness is shit it's utter nonsense yeah and we got tricked we got tricked into thinking it would go on forever and now we know it's not going to and now we know hey look this is a this is a terrible thing but relatively speaking compared to supervolcano asteroid impact compared to something solar

Flair something really crazy that can happen and blow out all the power yeah which is a hundred percent of possibility solar flares are 100% a possibility and for people to not recognize that and just go through the life it's just because we look at life as if what we've experienced while we're alive is the norm but it's not it's not the norm it's just hard for you to recognize that your life is so short your life is so short that when

measuring all the different catastrophes that have happened over the Earth whether it's proven sites of asteroid impacts are proven sites of volcano eruptions or all these different things that have happened for sure and wiped out millions of people all over the world they happen over a time span that's too big our head doesn't get in there are head doesn't go what what is 13,000 years is just some scratches on some paper in my head my stupid head I don't know what 13,000 years means I can

can't I can't do it but 13,000 years ago they think and there's more and more evidence every day that there was some big impact on Earth yeah and who fucking knows how many of those humans have gone through who knows for the the whatever I think scientists believe what is it it's like 300,000 plus years we've been this right is that the idea Homo Sapien something like that yeah something like that right brother you ain't shit all right that's so short that's so short just in the time that the the

Earth has been here in the 4-point whatever billion years the earth has been here and that's so short in terms of the almost 14 billion years the known universe has been here all of its Madness every single step along the way is madness but we get stuck in these little time periods where nothing changes and so we think that this is life so we've built all these houses that only can work on electricity how many fucking people have a real fireplace in their house that live in cold places

Susannah the Banning those now so they're banning fireplaces because they don't want to start fires that's great as long as you can ensure the gas in the power is going to stay on and I don't think you could do that yes think you can because you've done it for a hundred years that's right that's the thing a hundred years is this shit a hundred years the Industrial Revolution the Roaring 20s from from then to today let's go a hundred and fifty let's get crazy that ain't shit yeah that ain't shit this to say this is how things are everyday is so dumb

it's especially to say with in terms of the earth natural disasters space anomalies like so not even anomalies things that happen like solar flares they haven't all the time man yeah man well I mean shit we don't even know that's another thing we don't know all this sum of all the data in the universe we don't know that there isn't something called like a quadtree xion ripple it happens every you know 16 million years the whole Sean Carroll right now I need information you know do you know

oh that poem Ozymandias Ozymandias yeah you know I shall lie I think it's like I don't know I memorize but the basically it's like the poem is about someone who sees the broken legs of a statue in the desert and written on a plaque is my name is Ozymandias ruler of rulers King of Kings behold my Works ye Mighty and despair all or I guess you just a broken legs

because you think you have power you think you have all this control it's like we don't like I guarantee you've course like an ancient Egypt there was probably a not talk about the Pharaoh but there's at least like a thousand dudes were like I'm like the hot shit in Egypt and they're gonna remember me for a long time it's like we don't know you are it's all gone eradicated wiped out and this to me is like one of the really side effects of this thing this technology thing is we've all become completely

a self-obsessed self-absorbed putting our images out there making sure that our profiles are updated making you know what I mean like we have this insane idea of like we're so deeply rooted in our identity instead of in the connections between our identities that were all the only way that we can finally see how connected we are is some motherfucker eats a bat you know what I mean

weird dude you know it's really crazy man think of this if technology really did have an effect on the programming of human beings in a fume beings interacting with technology think we're in Iran innocently interacting with a non-sentient thing but all the while this technology and you could call to we get confused we think the technology is like a digital clock or a television or computer it is

it is but it's also like a fishhook right like so that there's so many it's Innovation something someone had to figure that out and imagine creating an ape that is aware of its environment like this is like really The Perfect Storm aware of its environment but obsessed with itself knows in the back of its head that it's temporary that it's a it's it's got a finite lifespan but lives like it's going to live forever and lives in the moment

there's in the moment and wants to acquire things I can see is the number one goal for the you know the uber wealthy or the Uber successful the Jeff Bezos types characters right around the top of the food chain financially they want to acquire things yeah they're always acquiring things which means people have to make things which means they're like they're like they're a big consumer as well as someone who's making a shit ton of money right and

this also fuels Innovation because you got to keep up with these people kind of keep giving them bigger and better things every year so it will all this all these resources go into innovation of Technology it's the thing that progress is quicker than anything right look at cell phones every year I need a hundred and fifty mega pixel camera or you're a loser yeah you're a loser yeah you know these fucking Samsung phones that have like 7 inch screens now everyone's going crazy right but what is the goal though the goal is to make better shit and the goal of

on the way of like let's go Liz it's working but you know be even better if we made it so they don't touch each other anymore if we maybe if we could come up with a disease where they can't shake hands they don't they don't come close or and yeah just keep them a little further apart from each other it'll make them what more interested in the things more interested in the technology more separate from each other and encourage technology that connects them with each other so through technology they'll find this human longing for

your contact at the Burr missing in their life they're going to get an emulated version of it but that emulated version of it just going to keep getting better and it's going to keep getting better and it's going to get to a point where it's better than real life way better than real life because you're like Jumanji you get to be the rock you know you get to be the like a superhero like in you could you could live a magical life with no boundaries of physics and that they're going to do that people are going to do that they're going to give in if I was a life form that was trying to haunt another life form

and trick it into giving birth to me that's I would create a person I'd create people people we like some fucking Aunt we're like some ant that's manufacturing our successors yes what we are yeah and we don't even know what we're doing just showing up every day look at my fucking watch as I got all these Diamond chain chain chain yeah what bling bitches my house is bigger than the Rocks the Rocks house is just big my house yesterday like that's that's what people are doing that's what we're doing we're just buying more shit and one good thing

of something like this anytime a tragedy happens people bond together afterwards it's a terrible thing that it happened but it for the victims and the family members of the victims we all know this but it can be a good reset for us canonical e people going to have to get through it that's going to be the most difficult part yeah but I think there's there's gonna be an opportunity for us to just assume a nicer stance towards our neighbors and towards our friends and towards our

today and instead of embracing this idea like better get guns because they're coming maybe we can all come together so I think people need to find if there that's going to happen then we've got to find a better metric for whether things are right or wrong yeah then the news yes we need something to retune ourselves like we're right now we're tuning the guitar of our identities to these two like the most terrifying

sighing shit which is the news or like what people are saying and so if that's if and I think many people have become so accustomed to getting their idea of what's happening in reality from the TV instead of from like how they feel inside what's going on with their friends and their family that puts people at incredible disadvantage yes their Pond is being rippled by shit you know I was thinking it's like what are those little not prayer

dogs does they stand and look around at the Hawks you know I'm talking about what are those things called they like their social little marmots or something like that he doing there was a show like way more Palace I don't remember what they're called something but they're like they're like they're really cute a seam of the zoo fucking adorable sister must one of the most durable animals ever they stand and listen how they ignore all the humans around them and just look in the sky for a Huck it's kind of sad but that's their life though imagine if that one looking for the hawk

chuck had like the internet and could Seahawks thousands of miles away how anxious all of them would because he would always be like get on the ground get on the ground get on the ground so you know I think this this is what has happened is that we're all constantly being told I mean I remember when I was growing up in the old days when the news had an alert that was serious some serious shit with you you'll be what the fuck Fox News or any of the news stations to have an alert like every four minutes now don'tdon't don't

so that I'm alert and it's all telling us just what you're saying get underground go inside go inside danger out here danger a year and so we're all like even before the shit we were huddled up a little bit now we can rationalize the huddling you know and that's what we're doing which is huddling inside right now that's an incredibly vulnerable place to be I mean I'm not going to get conspiratorial here but if I was the artificial intelligence and I was about to hit the switch and become sentient I would

want to I would want to remove the threat of human beings as much as possible for hit the switch But A Min and this is the best way to make them sick I have to give birth make him a can get sick confuse them keep them poor and then boom it comes out of nowhere and then what then they just start eating us because we're fuel they're not going to eat as I do you know who came up with a do you know that was a that was a DARPA project what EA T our robots they were robots that survived on

biological air quotes biological material so like maybe they could eat plants or babies whatever is around I need a friend at DARPA I mean they made robots that eat tissue this is this is do robots eat people he does not and it's a corpse eating robot yes bro what yes well literally knit playground call it literally will use Hua darpa's like painted like a playground set

it so true look at it the colors it's ridiculous like a kid's toy it should look like a vulture it should be like red and black like a vulture yeah it should definitely be black red lightning bolts on the side let's patina look a ward out patina like it's just going through the battlefield eating bodies can you imagine getting eaten by thing it looks like a top and dress if you're not quite dead and it starts chewing you feet first how does it determine whether or not you're dead what if you can make it what if you just out cold what do you got knocked out and it's like a

you wake up in the battlefield is a bunch of movies where that happens right guys aren't really dead they just badly injured these motherfuckers there's a video right down below of us talking about it down by either robots how this happened more than once I'm fucking terrified of those things just the idea that someone made something that can eat people that will listen folks the technology that existed in like early cell phones right like if someone made an early Motorola phone with a camera

all that stuff got in everything now you're there's so many things that can take pictures now and so many phones that can take pictures they develop one robot and one like proof of concept where something could be fueled on dead bodies you don't think other people are going to make those two and you don't think they're going to get better they're going to get better and then when we do go to war with the robots and this big giant bulletproof metal ones just eating us and using us as fuel we're going to be like what have we done what have we done we've created a thing that

people and even if it's just the baby right now that thing could evolve to become something that literally is the thing of nightmares and Stephen King movie sure we're just running around looking for people eating people it's a Black Mirror episode gone wrong man all right I got to me I just like to think about the meeting where the guy was like last night I woke up in the night I guess idea I got it y'all

what if we make a robot that devours corpses and somebody was like you know what I kind of like that Jake let's uh let's put 50 million into that project see what we could do Jesus yeah just imagine like this is the other thing man is like we somehow imagined that that thing that made Genghis Khan Genghis Khan is like now out of people like there isn't somebody on the planet right now that has the same ambition

is a warlord you know we've somehow forget it see I don't I just think people don't understand that like there's this idea that the world leaders are just you know humanists and there we have our you know the interest of humanity is the first thing they're thinking about when they wake up every day we don't know that there's some of them aren't interested in the same thing every conquering warlord has been interested which is like maybe we could take over the planet

I wonder if there's a way and you know imagine if you ended up president of the United States or like President of Russia president many powerful wherever oh maybe when you're a high one night I don't know if they get high but I would you know or maybe when you're like just like thinking wouldn't it flicker through your mind kind of like I wonder if there would be a way to take over the world I wonder if there's a way that I could become the king of Earth because you know when you look up there in the sky

sure there's many Earths out there that have one king one ruler someone who conquered the entire planet someone who figured out a way to do it to like just why couldn't you that's the other thing I mean what's stopping that from happening one day they're being one primary Authority some Imperial Majesty we are all One Duncan I know yeah if we were all one but we just have to get rid of some of our laws other people are not going to accept our laws okay we just got to tighten that up a little bit and we could have

of one ruler of the whole plan yeah we're going to fix everything by working together we're going to evenly distribute resources it's going to be better this way about the distribution of resources going to have to give up all your privacy that's all but but through that everyone's going to be happier yeah are you in or are you an outsider are you going to act like you're not in and if you act like you're not and then we'll find another way to hypnotize you because we'll just pretend to be people who aren't in you know and then we'll trick you will infiltrate like yeah yes

good cult yeah yeah that's what yeah that's what you do man that's like that's the problem is like no matter what revolutionary idea gets out there that anybody has the contagion of the Revolutionary idea is easily warped and Twisted by people who have like other ideas that run counter to that you know like it's so easy to confuse people who believe that Twitter Instagram CNN

Fox News Drudge Report Wall Street Journal New York Times is an accurate metric of what's happening on the planet yeah that's not very many information streams man right like how hard would it be to infiltrate all the information streams in some small way and gradually start warping them so that people become more open to the idea of being constantly surveilled constantly monitored and not speaking up about it because if you speak up about it then you're a conspiracy

theorist I got another way of looking at it that I've been thinking what if it's just this is how life goes What If instead of this being like some Grand conspiracy by the robots or by the the elites would have this is just how systems go when one thing gets too big as an in is in too much power there's no longer a struggle to survive it's reached some stagnant

ain't biologically and some sort of weird way and also maybe even without for lack of a better word spiritually stagnant right mean some people are breaking through and realizing who you know who they are and their connection other people but globally God is a lot of people that are sleep sleep walking out they're sleepwalking hypnotized by technology and society and this is this is their big wake-up call right now what if this all this even materialism

right even our obsession with technology maybe like if you look at all the systems that exist in the universe and particularly all the biological systems that exist on Earth some of them are so spectacular you like what what happened here how did they do this like if you ever seen like leafcutter ants when they take their their buildings and they pour cement in them and they realize these these fermentation Chambers and they ferment the leaves in there there's air holes out to the Earth and there's all these fucking tunnel

girls in this is crazy elaborate City structure that's created by these ants well there's all these systems that take place all over the Earth for if there's too much plants than these the insects involved there's too many insects the plants evolve all these things happen to sort of keep some sort of a balance ideas that infect people the dumb ones that are so intoxicated think about what's some of the most intoxicating shit I mean

talk skating meaning that you're not even really getting pleasure out of it be can't look away it's like some of the dumbest reality television right and the Fear Factor you're sitting there with your mouth open like huh and you get sucked in to this thing that the Earth is created to make you it's not people what if the what if the grand conspiracy is it's not robots it's not people it's life is trying to get rid of you life is making it easier to survive which makes you soft as fuck

which makes you compliant to anything that keeps you in that sort of soft comfortable State I don't want to ruffle any feathers of they need to look through my emails you let them yeah and all the while it's just the world it's the universe plotting against us because there's too many of us and we fucked up we have too much power and we're obviously doing shit to the Earth that we shouldn't be doing like look what we're doing to the ocean we're sucking every fish out with dump it in all our fucking straws yeah look at what we're doing a fracking

people have to move because they can't use their water and like Wells an acceptable outcome this is basically we don't need to rely on Saudi Arabia anymore but you poison these peoples are they have to move out of their fucking house their water's on fire literally their water's on fire and maybe life is like okay what do we got here let's get a virus let's get them addicted to technology let's get a virus let's get them obsessed with themselves let's make the predominant thing that people spend their time on not reading book

books not a fucking walking alone with their thoughts but staring at these pictures of other people's photos yeah selfies and but pictures and it look at all this guy does chest you ever do just like that it sucked it sucked into looking at these fucking videos and and then when it's when it's decided your week it starts sending in some more problems boom here's a little bit of this boom here's a little bit of that yeah boom here's a new disease yeah

boom here's a tsunami boom here's a nuclear reactor you can't shut down yeah and then you try to figure out

whether or not we're going to be able to use our amazing intellect to bypass our own biological switches that have us connected to this bullshit life we have a lot of weird dumb biological switches that were put in place back when we had her survive against incoming hordes of soldiers and we're in the information age now what we need to do is be sustainable in case of emergency which would clearly not and we need to realize that

that this is temporary and will when a bad thing happens it makes you realize that it makes you realize like hey I thought everything was going to be fine forever it's not this is a real just like a movie or a book we're just not prepared for it because we haven't experienced it was like this is a once-in-a-lifetime event no it's a Once In Our Lifetime event our lifetime is too small for us to really get a grip it's a blank it's a blank to blank and this is just you know like you said dress or so if anything it's a dress rehearsal for death I mean you're going to

that's the thing is is like that blink if you're an atheist which you know I get that and I think there must be some like deep do you know any atheist that have done like a real blowout psychedelic session now I know a couple and those those are the most puzzling to me because the guy people have done like real blowout mushroom sessions or blowout DMT sessions I always think that they would leave the door open to The Impossible because it is

possible and you experienced it it's not like even if you are imagining it I couldn't imagine that so how am I imagining that how am I imagining something in such incredible Vivid color and detail and and knowledge and love and all these different things you experience in that state that state is otherworldly the fact that that is accessible at all I don't care if it's through a molecule or through a yoga session I don't care how it's accessible right the fact that that's accessible

at all leaves open to me the I don't know because I didn't know that that was a thing so once I've experienced that I'm like oh well all this flat plane of existence that we take for granted that we think this is this is everything around us this is the whole environment have to worry about for this might be just one fucking stage on the radio dial of experience right and of Dimensions that are interacting with us we just don't have the senses to tune into them and when you can for me at least it leaves open a

for who the fuck knows who knows man I just the fact that that's a thing there's a okay so this is a trip this is very trippy so I got this book called The Tibetan yoga of dream and sleep well I feel like I should like this again it's fucking cool but basically it's like it's form of Tibetan Buddhism that invites you to explore the difference between when you think you're awake and when you're dreaming and so

basically the idea is there isn't much of a difference they're like right now you're dreaming this thing you call your human Incarnation it's like it is a dream and you know like when people are dying they get all delirious and shit they slide through time you know like I don't know if you have been around a dying person but they they like suddenly they're back in Vietnam there in the 50s there in the 30s where however whatever

a lifetime which means that when you're dying you're going to like spin through time to meaning that this could be you dying right now spinning backwards time but like in a dream so that when you know this is a the main thing about it is that when we die according to this we sort of spend like 39 days I think it is in a place called The Bardo which is essentially like what it's like to have nobody

but still have this like this basically like your karma your identity sort of propelling you through and that that is how you like get your next Incarnation so essentially like that's what we're dealing with here is so bizarre and surreal that easily could just be a dream state that one of these vast a eyes there already exists is having we're just processors we're just being run it's like running a simulation of

pandemic or maybe this is the way that like an AI gets polished like maybe we're an AI That's being like polished and taught through this process of having a limited Incarnation you got to have that so that there's a reason for us to actually invest ourselves and stuff like if we were God's if we live for a million years eventually we wouldn't have such a passionate relationship I think with the world anyone he's going to so you need that to train the thing up so it takes it

SLI you have to put the setting on Mortal then you then maybe you just run a series of tests on the thing you know you start run to see what is this what have we made what does it do in a pandemic and by it I mean the sum total of all humans which is right now disconnected it's like a malfunctioning brain the Sonata you know what I mean we're not connecting but if we were being like sort of I don't know how you put it groomed evolved intentionally then every single moment in an individual's life and anaplasmosis

at the planets the life of History could be looked at as a training or an upgraded this could be an operating system upgrade this could be what an operating system upgrade looks like in the bio-computer that we exist in it looks like a fucking pandemic and that's what's happening right now is we're being like upgraded for some reason even though it's terrifying and obviously horrific you know we're being upgraded and when you anyway the whole point is man this thing that we're

in right now whether or not there's a God we just I think an atheist gets to lean into the idea that when they close their eyes and breathe their last breath it stops and I just think that's a big gamble man that's and I don't mean because you're go to hell I mean how nice would that be yeah if it just stopped when more than likely it's you know the at least in this Tibetan yoga of dreaming and sleep more than likely what happens is way before you actually die when you get really sick

you already start waking up into your next life you just wake you just like go through a weird dream like steak all the Bardo where you freak the fuck out and then you're suddenly alive and another being completely oblivious to whatever your past incarnations were and that's what we're in right now so you know I don't know this is a great time for people to start you know looking at that in one and preparing for that we didn't prepare for the fucking pandemic we didn't prepare

are some of y'all did I'm sure but I did there's a few Preppers out there listening oh yeah I was ready I know you guys did it congrats ready man you were right congratulations I've got fucking hummus and strawberries and some like and but but I think that like also preparing for like the authentic apocalypse which is when you kick the fucking bucket yeah because ideas you know this feel free to like the goddamn stage again but the idea is ones be gone thank you the idea is that

that you can actually like navigate through that Bardo State you can have a little bit of Lucidity instead of sort of dying in like freaking out because it's a hallucinatory state you could actually have a kind of like I don't know Focus through it and control your next Incarnation yeah we just have to figure it out that's the thing and when you're young particularly if you're young you don't have a lot of guidance which was me when I was younger it takes a while to figure it out because you're just running on

your own right there's no do not getting like a lot of direction to how to live your life and I moved around a lot to which really didn't help but as you get older you start getting a better sense of what makes sense and what doesn't make sense and what's important and what's not important what fucks up your life and what enhances your life but you don't live long enough to really get it down see if these these people like David Sinclair or Aubrey de grey all these anti-aging Geniuses that are out there that are working on

all these solutions to extend human life they were really nail it they really nail it you know if David Sinclair comes up with something and you can live a hundred and fifty 250 years by the time you're a hundred fifty years old you're going to have so much less bullshit in your life you're gonna realize like what you're 30 you'll date crazy people you have more on friends that you have to bail out of jail you'll have these prop but when you get older you start going look I see what's good for me and I see what's

good for me you know when I see this some people that are not willing to change and they're trying they're not trying to do better right there just consistently make the same mistakes over and over again and dragging everyone down around them you just gotta move on from people like that in your life when you're a hundred fifty man here to do not going to be tolerating anything you're just gonna just going to only have cool people that you hang out with and and will attract each other and then we'll be able to work together on things right knowing that each other are sane and rational

and they're looking at these things honestly they're not talking from a position of trying to convince you of their virtue or trying to talk you in a position of doing something that will benefit them financially they're doing it just because they're they're just being in the moment and honest and being a human being yeah man I mean you basically just described like the secret societies I mean you know what I need to come up with our own which we call it the Illuminati no that's too much well you know that if we came up with her

right now it would be Call It Whatever It Is don't do initials man I hate that she's not good they can use those against you yeah I don't know what do we call it Jamie children of Jamie you know you know but the thing is like these are mortal beings that you're talking about they do already exist but they exist as like communities that have lineages attached to them so it's like because our physical bodies die we don't get to do this

the thing you're talking about we when we rolled when you're older you do do that naturally and plus when you have kids it's like you just don't have time for bullshit anymore there's no time to fuck around with somebody who's like constantly fucking up their life used to get drinks with or whatever like you have a child and you have to but regardless there already is set in place in on the planet these like lineages the heat there's essentially chains of transmission in martial arts right when you look at a martial art you're seeing a living

being you know that as it has its roots I don't know how far it goes back when you look at yoga that's a living thing that's transferred from person to person okay yeah so I think these things already immortality already does exist it just doesn't exist as a human and also sometimes when I hear about these Technologies trying to live forever I get a little scared thinking that's kind of like you know if you could theoretically do it you might be locking yourself in a dream that you don't

want to stay in it gets worse yeah you can't die you can't tell you engineer some polymer skin that's made of that spider silk blend that they were trying to come up with it stronger than steel yeah remember they were doing that there were there was an article about them trying to create some sort of Bulletproof Skin by engineering it with spider silk yeah I remember that once that becomes what if that's real what if they figure out a way to make people completely invulnerable and we live forever and then we hate it and we didn't realize that if we just shut the lights out we'd go to the next day

inch that's the next stage is amazing maybe that's like the big trick the big trick is like how do you how do you use this life and how does it take you into the next stage imagine if that's really what's happening that's why every single look I'm not saying that this means anything but every single religion has some place you go and it's over yeah don't die I mean almost all of them yeah is that me that's an overlying theme now you could say well that's just engineered to provide

add Comfort to people because you know they want to feel like this life means something but the reality is the lights just shut off and to that I say maybe I say maybe maybe but have you ever been whacked out of your mind on psychedelics because if you are you would you would go who the fuck knows because that's a who the fuck knows moment so maybe death is who the fuck knows moment maybe that's why every single religion has the story's not every single one but like look I mean there's a lot of religions of people clearly just

it up right and we know the people that made them they count to they don't even have to pay taxes yeah so it's not get holier-than-thou with the concept of religions right so there's a lot of really dumb religions they probably don't have an afterlife but it's just some shit that people made up all of it but how many people have made up this idea that there's a place you go that's better than this I mean is that just to make you incentivize you to be good and to be a good person or is it like an inherent understanding of how the universe works it

might be bold things it might be might be also be manipulative because you can get people to comply with social norms and society's rules if you tell them that if they don't that God is watching them and he will Smite them down and burn them forever they'd is a way that is part of a way but it's not going to stop people from doing Mo shit that it's just not it never has you know some of the most horrific things ever done by human beings were done in the name of Christianity right or and many other religions but there is something

to the the possibility that it's both things that it's an understanding that you when you do good in this life you will you will go forth into the next stage in a better place right you'll feel better you'll be you'll be less less burdened by the past you'll be less hampered by the failures of your ability to adjust your ability to live a harmonious life with people here on Earth that's that might be something that's real and also the

the other ideas you're all it's not like this place that they're talking about and religions is existing after you die the idea is like you're there right now you just can't you feel it you're wearing a blindfold that looks like your body mmm and your life you're wearing a blindfold that looks like your existence you're behind and that's why the there's always these stories of like Jesus healing a blind man or like the Paul on the road to Damascus being like blinded there's all these stories of being like

existing and what Buddhism at some point the physical fundamental goodness that's already where we're at that's the main Channel but we've sort of grown like little bits of grass into the time-space Continuum and right now we're like waving in the wind for karma and not not realizing there's a beneath us or through us or moving through us is a much grander more beautiful and credible things like I think when people say yeah they invented it to people be afraid it's sort of

imagines that these people are having one-way conversations with it you know that when they pick up the phone it's just themselves they're talking to you it's not imagining that when people connect to this Divine Source it immediately says oh hi yeah this is the part of your program where you are supposed to start remembering what's really going on here and reconnecting with me don't worry don't feel bad it's okay everyone goes through that in fact you requested a disconnect for the

15 years when you were getting hammered and imagining your Charles Bukowski or whatever like if this was all part of the plan that was actually teaching you what happens when you don't take care of your body now I'm we're like connecting sending a download to you letting you know hi it's us we're here we're not mad at you how could we be we're infinite we've been here since before the Stars you wanted this to happen my apologies for cutting off your balls

all killing your mom and your dad he's you know what I mean but whatever this is all part of a bigger thing and I think that's to me what God is it's this constantly rejuvenating synchronistic Perfection that becomes increasingly perfect and it exists simultaneous to this seemingly imperfect universe and it's always there for you to connect to any moment and when people smoked DMT certainly that's one of the Avenues and

that's a beautiful thing so I think the reason for it is not to scare people it's more so that people will come like fountains for that and in some small way become little droplets or like Divine bits of perspiration bubbling up into this place so that folks who are really freaking out right now or worried or scared or disconnected could have at least the chance to reconnect because listen man if I was God wanting to get blasted if I was some Divine being wanting to get high

Alan Watts has a beautiful lecture on this I really do think at some point I would want to cut off all connection to the realization of my Divinity and experience infinite lifetimes and it's on a planet and a tumultuous planet and experience every Incarnation and all of it to get an understanding of what it is like to be extremely limited and what would this deal would just add to my data banks it would just help me increasingly become more and more beautiful and perfect which seems to be

what we're in right now it's like we have a limited data set based on our neural neurology we can't see certain colors we can't hear certain sounds we don't know what happened 20,000 years ago we don't know what happens five seconds from now and so this is a perfect place to be in what's in becoming to know what it is to become and to be limited and this is who knows man is just something sniffing data you know it's something just like

you know it's like snorting our lives like the universe is snorting our lives on time and on the mirror of time well it's the big thing right that keeps us from seeing that the one thing that all psychedelics have in common is the dissolving of the ego they all dissolve the ego what's that word dissolution good feel yeah dissolution dissolution of the ego that what's happening with all of them is a removes all this

it's narrative in your head everyone's ego has this nonsense view of the world that's based on them being the most important thing and that you know all the shit that they're thinking about right now is of the utmost important needs to be done right now that's why people run red lights like you can't even wait you can't even wait you fuck it's one thing if it's medical emergency kids being born seems got a broken leg and you just gotta get to the hospital right away I get it I hundred percent get it but there's some people that just want to be they just want to make that left turn they don't give a fuck of the light change they want to cut in front of you make that turn

even block traffic because they think more about themselves and they do about other people and that's that's as a side effect of this life that's been set up but it's almost like maybe that's how it works maybe the life creates challenges when there are no challenges and the challenges are just starts to diminish you try to see if you're paying attention tries to weaken you and make you stupid and turns you into a fucking zombie if you walked into any restaurant any restaurant during lunch time and you see people on their phones it's like this is Bonkers

occurs this is if this was anything else that where half the room was using an electronic and staring into it for long moments at a time not interacting with the person across from them that becomes almost the norm that like at least 50% of the people and everyone's interrupting everybody like you know they're all just barely paying attention to each other yeah well they haven't developed a muscle I mean yeah it's a muscle you it's people just assume that the

to have a conversation as a natural part of being an adult but it's like you I think that's atrophying in a lot of people to the point now where I just try to be you know is I guess is like I just lowered my expectations yeah to the point of like I don't know how many people can pay attention that much and I know I'm certainly distracted but doesn't it feel fucking weird even if you're just watching TV with somebody and they pull their phone out and start

looking at it it's so weird it fits like it's like the energy immediately down shit yeah the moment that it's but if you're watching a movie with someone and they're over there on their phone I come on yeah watch the guy did movie with me yeah even though we're not talking doesn't mean we're not connecting it's weird it's weird even fights if you watch fights with your friends they're on their phone all the time so like are you not even watching these fights you can feel it yeah that's right you know at the Denver Comedy Works they've got the day she on the bags yeah so like I was listening

do you ever listen to an audience that doesn't have access to their phones before show so mad the what know they like the this know it's they talk to each other yeah it's like it's like the sound is better it's better sound out there it's different murmur than a phone murmur for me proud so yeah I don't know man I think that life presents all sorts of adversity and some adversity doesn't feel like adversity it's Sneaky

and that's what cell phones are that's what technology is and that's certainly would so some social media is you only realize what social media truly can do when it comes at you you know you get cancelled or there's a bunch of people are tweeting mean stuff to you then you realize like oh these are horrible feelings right this feeling of being attacked by this thing that's been grooming me that yeah it's like what is that like well if the Earth was trying to get rid of us if the Earth had decided

did that there's an infection that doesn't think it's an infection it thinks it's so important that it should be allowed to pollute everything around it should be allowed to scab up the Earth with giant concrete bandages I mean that's what we're doing we're putting these things everywhere the cover up all the ground displace all the life and then we shut off the light so we can't recognize that we're in space mean the whole recipe is perfect yeah it's perfect for Charming us to sleep the every every aspect of

it the ego part the you know the fact that it exists the fact that we have this biological imperative to stay alive and breed and then keep our DNA alive and there's all these things that are set into you to make sure that that happens all the while where you recognize you definitely are a finite life form right but yet you do something you hate every day yeah he's just keep doing it yeah I mean you do something you don't enjoy and and when you get into reincarnation which I love that thing you're doing that you don't

Joy you've been doing that for infinite lifetimes it's that's called your kleshas it's your sort of it's like underneath your identity it's basically your code that it's it's your Tendencies I guess is the way you put it so like you know if you have the tendency to lose your temper then that's something that you've been dealing with for infinite life times and it never ever goes away until you start waking up because

the idea is to just go from being this set of conditioned responses reactions to your environment to being something that's like Lucid living have you know if you weren't a lucid dreaming try Lucid living you know which is the practice I would say of like first understand what are your habituation you know what like the other day I was sitting on the couch I took my sock off and I spun it like a lasso and threw it across the room and my wife

looks at me she's like what was that I'm like oh my God holy shit that's how I've been taking my socks off for years and I didn't even know it I pull him off lasso him and sling in like like that just that little thing I didn't even know I was doing something so were probably doing that since I was a kid like I probably saw some cool kid lasso is socks and throw it and I'm like I'm gonna start fucking lasso on my socks but

like how many other things are you doing that are just like that they're just pure habituation pure reactivity and this is where you run into some scary shit man which is what Jaron Lanier God I wish we could get him on you know that guy is what's his name Jaron Lanier I feel like I've heard that name he is what does he do he's an author you like developed all this VR technology he's was in Silicon Valley and it's when it was just starting

working on VR before the technology was even there to have VR goggles he was like building I think he liked and helped his group helped build I think it might be the Oculus Rift I'm sorry fans of his out there who are upset that I don't know that but some VR system yeah he's and he's like he's written a lot of great books one of them 12 reasons to get out of ten reasons to get off your social media now really yeah wrote a book called uh yep how do you say his name again Jaron Lanier Jared Haren linear linear freaking

brilliant human man but I'm you know what's the name of the book it's called a 10 or 12 I can't 12 reasons to get off your social media now or delete your account something like that there's a book of his I like better than that called the dawn of the new everything

hmm But in that just him sort of like talking about what it was like working in Silicon Valley back then and his sort of opinions on on this stuff so you like I would dreadlocks yeah look yeah hmm what's a good what know I think people do judges is me body but his me body well it's physical appearance Rosie large fellow fucking brilliant I believe it he said man there's a lot of brilliant people with wacky hair

yeah yeah I just joking it's okay to have just sending him because I'm like a nurse he doing I love him we do is those bagpipes what's happening with this guy he's playing pipes who cares he's a genius let me see I don't care what is this quite a few photos of him with pipes God damn it I didn't see the pipe photos who cares hey you see them - I always say by this will we should say like the kind you blow on like flutes and pipes and a lot of them bro he looks real spiritual Jamie

put the picture back up because very few things in life that I love more than white guys with dreadlocks with their eyes closed playing the flute it's very few things in life that make me feel like band dude if that's my God gave me online I would want people to turn off their social media to my that's my guy here's a new flute god with him eyes closed who cares he plays the flute plays a flute I bet he's amazing at it nothing wrong with what he's doing I think it's amazing I wish I could play a flute playing Another

absolute that's a dope looking flute though what is that flu that's absolutely dumb flute sound cool and I'm not being disingenuous I'm not being sarcastic flute sound cool I wish I could what is that thing though that that needs to go away what is that silly thither that's in The Hobbit he's in the movie The Hobbit he's in the movie The Hobbit he's in the fucking Pub and he's playing that thing in the back because they haven't figured out real music yet sir I'm only

only joking I appreciate your contributions I'm just joking I'm sure you were brilliant Duncan's one of my favorite people if he's brilliant just joking look you if you want to listen you play the flute all seems like the kind of people that are like super intelligent and whacked out on you know technology I think something like the flute would be an amazing way to decompress right an organic I mean you're literally using your body to make a sound with air and tubes he plays it's amazing he said he plays

a hundred instruments or something sure some kind of Genius but he hears the scary thing he said which is if like BF Skinner's right and you know pretty much if you can control the things environment you can control it this is the reason to be terrified of AI because you know the more advanced in AI gets like you know where our assumption is that things going to eat us or kill us or whatever it might just gradually his

hypnotize us and by and hypnotize Us by creating more and more enticing things that grab our attention hacks our neurology and begins to like just do things that are completely impossible to not look at and you know when you're saying an AI you know advise the pandemic what if that you know that how do you look away from a pandemic all of our nervous systems right now are completely

dated on every trimmer every Ripple every little data point that flies across our screens we are so absorbed in it right now we are locked in like cats chasing laser pointers and that is what he said we should be most afraid of is that this these things eventually could get to the point of completely grabbing us and what you were saying earlier is kind of maybe that's what already happened

maybe there's a that is a process yeah maybe it's a process it's not even put in place by anything other than life itself the life itself has these systems setups know one thing ever totally dominates and when it does they find ways into it and then it's his constant state of chaos that produces better and better life forms right that's what it is I mean if you want to admit or you want to state that we are better than our ancient ancestors the you know the pre homo sapien

it's I think we're better I think we're better they might have been stronger than us but we've created more overall as a species I think it's better to be a person that it is to be a pre person right I think as it goes on and on we're going to think the same way I think the next stage of existence is going to be so happy it's not a person running around letting their dick think for them and fucking get drunk all the time and crashing their motorcycle and you know all the dumb shit that people do all of this

dumb shit from alcohol and drug abuse to it's fucked up relationships to everything we do to lying and stealing and yeah being selfish all that shit we'd be so happy if that all went away oh my God those dude the pre humans used to eat each other's babies there were always fucking stealing and robbing the couldn't talk that you couldn't express love who the fuck would want to be that right and then the humans the humans were so

holy shit they're all addicted to their phones they didn't even see it coming the phone snuck in their life they welcomed it with new versions every year paying for their own demise yeah happily and they were all angry and bitter and mean and jealous and fucking Thoughtless and polluting and then the next stage came along and they eliminated all that and we all live in harmony now we're all gravel no now we're all great to be a gravel path

double spaced yeah or just we're all were all part of the next yeah and we already are I mean I think probably we already are that but I mean I to me I think that whatever's happening you just have to make it a good thing like whether or not it is a good thing or not that's if there is something great about humans is that we're capable of alkalizing phenomena in a way that it doesn't completely

drive us nuts or paralyzes that's an any any thing that's happening to you can be converted into something either that's going to make you scared self-destructive rationalize your anger rationalize your shitty decisions or it can be used as a thing that completely quote converts you completely shifts your method or a way of living and that's what's beautiful about a human is that any given moment you can do that like

at any given moment you can shed your operating system theoretically you could drop all of the Hang-Ups all the weird shit are you jerking off three times a day you could maybe take it down to two times the den are you drinking every single night you can you can stop that it and to me that's like yeah I the future beings whatever they are I hope one of the qualities or one of the things they look back at it's like holy shit those

things had no idea how powerful they were they were sleepwalking when they could have any moment connected to the great truth that Divine the the the glory of all things and could have theoretically any one of them just one of them could have converted the entire planet into up and do an up leveled up resident up Consciousness Utopia but they all were sleepwalking

in and then finally somebody woke up for real and I don't know maybe it's a I don't know what that looks like well maybe that what looks like is what this is what this is happening what is happening right now with this virus where everybody's being forced in doors and forcing us to stop work it's a terrible thing for people financially but it is in a sense a reset button it's a real reset button to know that this shitty job that you hate going to could go away at any moment because all

to go in any moment is a real wake-up call because even the good jobs are going away right if you're in San Francisco you have the best job in the world guess what you can't even go there all right you might have the best job you're so fucking pumped to go to work every day you can't go you can't go so that can be taken away from you too so if you're living a bullshit life like recognize that all of this for everybody could go away right if Yellowstone blows half the people died right Lagoon easily easily maybe more

or maybe more right that motherfucker could easily go sure we need these little catastrophes sometimes just to let us understand that the window of time that we've been existing in that's been relatively flat free of disaster is unique and that's not normal normal is madness normal is we're in the middle of a fucking Shooting Gallery spending a thousand miles an hour around Fireball that's normal and every now and then ship flies into our atmosphere and

Havoc this is why I love hollow Earth theory man you ever get into that shit you ever get into that is that for people to get kicked out of the Flat Earth Society yeah Hollow Flat Earth people look down on Hollow Earth but how low Earth hollow worth Hollow Earth is like to me my favorite of them all because like if the idea is like humans have been on the planet for a long time and if we want to go into like the cool idea of the atlanteans and advanced civilizations

it's some point if you can't create a way to protect from the meteor impacts and you're looking to create a sustaining civilization you're going to want to go in there man and so to me it's such a fucking cool idea that in the core of the earth is another son that has an advanced civilization that hasn't been disrupted by the shit that happens on the surface of the planet it turns the earth into a spaceship inside the spaceship or these Advanced beings and outside the space

it's like a Celestial fungus it's like growing outside it's just it's like another way to put it would be outside the spaceship as Mad Max like covering outside the spaceship is just a bunch of like you know us that are inside the thing who have basically been completely disrupted over and over and over again so there they have no idea what history is they have no idea where the planet came from they don't know anything and now we've sort of grown out of control all around the ship

whoop and so this kind of shit that's happening is like turning on the windshield wipers it's like hey man you got humans on you you know that right man you're like crawling with them oh fuck wipe them out get rid of them let's just scrub the fucking surface do some earthquakes Yellowstone is just a windshield wiper yeah for the people who live inside the planet well you know what humans are man really a vector for ideas yeah it's ideas that change everything the humans just do the work of the ideas

what we are where the first thing that can manipulate our environment that has ideas where the first thing with ideas all these other animals they had instincts they had ideas in terms of like trying to figure out the best patterns to acquire food how to sneak up on birds yeah but if you think cats have ideas well guess what they all have the same fucking idea cats are inventing shit you know they're not inventing things there's a specific kind of idea that's unique to human being regardless of the

sent chance of other animals ours is unique in that it allows us to make stuff not just little things we can make gigantic machines that travel into space and all the wild creations of human beings all came out of ideas we think it's all humans but true we are the ones that put for but if you're a thing that wants to get born you need a host you get that curious ape that just been trying to figure out better ways of stabbed its neighbor with a spear get that thing

and slowly infect it with ideas ideas of new stuff to make and then it goes out and does the work for you and then you take over the Earth the idea is have taken over the Earth the people would just the toys the ideas now if instead of ideas you said demons I mean that's that's literally what people used to think was happening folks and they did Terrible Things They had bad ideas they acted on those bad ideas and ancient religions thought of those ideas like they were demons like these people were

possessed that was a common thought that someone's possessed by a demon that hey we are all possessed by ideas and some possessed by the more than others like Elon Musk is particularly haunted he's possessed by ideas warms inviting and what does he do well look at what he's done he's one guy that's probably had more of an impact on our perception of what the future holds in terms of Technology than any other one individual human being that is widely known of like he

as a famous human like he is I mean he's doing Tesla which is the most advanced electric cars in the world they're insane yeah then he's doing this fucking Loop thing right the hyper or the boring project where he's boring we do the hyperloop is doing the boring project is making tunnels under LA and Vegas and you gonna be able to shoot through those tunnels going a hundred twenty miles an hour then he's making rockets that shoot up in the space Oh and solar power to ya like what how does one guys

doing all this what's going on there well that guy's infected by ideas that guy probably has a huge receptor and ideas of clung on to him just like some girls have big tits some people have crazy parts of their brain that soaks in ideas and it's no Rhyme or Reason to why but what they are is an antenna for ideas those ideas come up you're like wow I'm glad I thought of that and then you go to work on fracking you got to work on all kinds of different crazy things and change the world forever whoever invented

about right is like I'm figure out how to shut it off when that time comes I'll figure it out no one ever does but that person talked people or that group of people whose ideas all coincided talk to people in the building a gigantic nuclear furnace that you can never shut off yeah how crazy is that Ah that's crazy it's crazy we scan the skies for meteor impacts but we have no way to scan human consciousness for some incoming yes yes

some ideas coming in or going to be great but there's going to be a few that are really bad ideas like you know Hillier yeah we had an idea yeah and it was a bad fucking idea and the implements that was terrible idea idea was just floating an astral plane gradually just shooting towards Hitler's but I did that ideas fueled by an ecosystem and let just like you're fueled by nutrients right human beings are fueled by plants and

isshin animals and vitamins and all these different things well you're these ideas are fueled they're fueled by insecurity and ego and lust and greed and jealousy and anger and virtue and love and prosperity and comfort and community and all those different components of human consciousness all interact with this idea so the idea becomes like it just hitches a ride and hitches a ride with all these ideas that that already exists in your brain

and then with these pre-existing structures like businesses and warehouses and all these different things that we use to make stuff and then ship it out then the idea becomes a thing and then the idea winds up in the belly of a seagull because it looks like a fish whoops sorry you're dead you're dead seagull you couldn't figure out that that's a bottle cap not a fish and that this is this is how things change they don't just change because of people were blaming ourselves and it is definitely us that's doing the work but it's

coming out of ideas if we thought of ideas is a life force instead of thinking ideas is like something you own yeah something you hold even though you're you do deserve credit for your ideas because your discipline to sit down and try to cultivate these ideas accelerates the production of those ideas and exercises the muscle through which those ideas come through focus and energy so you deserve credit for it I'm not it's not socialist way of looking at it but everybody that has an idea that's really good I will tell you it's like it came out of nowhere

we're like every great bit that you've ever had it's like pop a light bulb goes off and you have this thought and it comes out of nowhere right that's like most things that you write that are really cool to kind of come out of nowhere yeah you just sit there and then also you think of things and you write them out there like they're an idea that you're wrestling you just catch them and just catch him well the man this is this is why I love collaborating with people because the more people you collaborate with you instead of just using your own brain as the net

take care of these ideas when you have a group of people sharing whatever the intention may be whether it's to make like flesh-eating robots or to cure cancer or whatever then that becomes this like amazing as solar panel for like big Ideas you know so I mean this is to me the weirdest thing about when you're working with a group of people are collaborating with people if you know someone's off you will sink to that level

but if you're you know when you're around funny people you get funnier yes you know when you're around like people who can draw you can draw a little better it's like something about being in a group sure share you know what I'm talking about yeah that works that way with martial arts really works at yep it works that way with pool when you watch people play pool at a really good you can play better if you're a player like you see someone play really good you realize like things that they do and you see them in emulate them and then you could do it we feed off each other in that respect I think that's a big argument for why The Comedy Store so good

because there's so many great Comics there and we all feed off each other after if you go on after Jeselnik you're like fuck that guy is so good that's so funny and they like it elevates everybody that's around if you're there with D'Elia or Joey or you or you know Sebastian like fuck man how am I so lucky Ali Wong and Whitney yeah and Eliza like you're working with some of the best people in the country the people that are killing it all over the country one of my word and Tom and I mean I keep going on and on and on and then they're helping you punch up jokes

I got off stage and what is my favorite memories there and Jeff Garlin and Whitney Cummings or helping me punch up a joke and I'm sitting I'm just thinking like what the fuck this is like Hogwarts how am I getting how are these two people who are brilliantly funny you know nothing refined some like ridiculous just dumb joke do you ever still have imposter syndrome

yeah me too everybody does I think I'm so glad you admit it man that's powerful yeah I don't get as much anymore but it's still do it still particularly is to get it with famous people yeah the I'd get it I was around famous people I always felt weird like oh my God I'm not supposed to be around these people the two famous the real famous I'm just fake famous right you know I did it it's a weird insecurity the pops up but I think for you it's like you know when we first became friends you were the guy who answered the phone at the store

yeah and that's really do those crazy conversations that you and I had when I would call and give my avails we would talk to phone for a fucking hour sometimes all right now about wacky shit but that those sort of those kind of interactions you have with people they shape like they shape a shape what you are that's right you know and the more people that you have in your life that are like that that are interesting that you like you feed off and you you can have good ideas we we could engineer a

xiety that's way better that doesn't have all the pitfalls but we all have to pull our own weight it's like there's there's a problem in the society where there's there's siphoning off of money right there's massive moving and exchanging of money and some weird way with like Banks and mutual funds all that stuff like what are you guys doing like what is how are you so rich like it's moving money around like they're that's sort of that system since they run the financial system that sort of idea of how

and gets distributed is kind of hijacked because they kind of run the system we all are in the system and we all clearly benefit from the system as the best system we know of but still there's some people are doing some wacky things with the system and they have giant yachts and but yeah I don't 50 buildings but if that wasn't the case if it was a more fair distribution meaning not not meaning that you shouldn't be rewarded for your work but that you can't just kind of hijack money the way Bankers can write you can't

just kind of do this there's so so so much weirdness about using money to make money and that's all you do you're moving money around like what are you doing you don't even have a real job right I mean you have a real job like you're not making a thing right you're not writing a thing you know you're not teaching a thing you know you're just moving money's around you deciding this company sucks I'm going to fucking bet on this one like whoa and those are the people often times that have the most exorbitant amounts of money that it's not saying that they shouldn't have a lot of money

figured something out I'm saying that the system as it exists that it would allow someone to make challenge fucking money from things is a little crazy crazy it's a little crazy it's not saying you shouldn't be able to get ahead I'm not saying you shouldn't be able to kick ass not saying you shouldn't be able to acquire an extraordinary amount of wealth I'm just saying I don't know if that makes sense to keep that sort of banking system to keep it in place the way it is to keep the stock market and placed what is

is it what it's based on confidence like what are they doing they're moving numbers around buying and selling and things are getting ho it's not worth as much anymore because this happened oh my God sell sell sell a lot of people are shorting it what you gonna do I'm gonna buy these fucking idiots they're wrong apples coming back yeah you just moving money around like what a what a wacky way to run an economy yeah man bunch of fucking pill heads yeah so I could why I used to know these fucking kids from high school that one guy that I

other newspapers with and went on to become a stockbroker that guy was always doing coke really though it was a Madman he was a Madman well that would be any good cry be fine to be like blasted on Blow like stocks but I would yeah I just love the pictures on the stock exchange whenever it's crashing who are the fucking dudes like it always cut still like the guy who's ties kind of pulled down he's like did we who are they what are the what is that I don't know but until

so my friend who was a Wild Man became a stockbroker I didn't think of stockbrokers like that I thought stockbrokers like super nerd genius guys that are figuring things out and Counting and selling and the pay attention to all the markets and moving I didn't know there were animals like stop what stock market guys are fucking Savages right and then the Wolf of Wall Street came along and people like what well yeah that's like my friend that's my friend yeah these are the type of people that are like they have a big impact

stock market yeah people like that fucking that crazy asshole that went to jail with the fucks his name Madoff Bernie Madoff yeah people like that guy yeah but what the fuck man you just lying to people yeah you weren't even you aren't even investing anything no oh my God like those kind of crazy assholes there's so many of those in finance its amaze me there's great people in finance don't get me wrong there's people that follow the rules is people that are wonderful human beings that also exists in that chaotic world but it also attracts

a lot of fuck OTF Rocio pass yeah well that's that isn't that the idea is that the like there's the sociopath personality type is going to do better in certain industries yeah because you got to be Cutthroat yeah you've got to be I yeah you just have to look at other people as being things you manipulate yeah dude man I feel like a dick can I show you this thing for my show fuck yeah okay cool I feel like a dick cause you know those part of the thing I know man but I you know play you

that kind of like you know here's a gleaming but yeah good for my shut up that is fucking cheese Park up one more time before we see it yeah you should yeah you should have a lighter on your side don't you know here I have a lighter thanks Joe not going to touch that

yeah right now I just know all the people are like he's Daniel this mask wrong he's already I know it doesn't work I've got a beard because it work anyway ma'am yeah there's a lot of people out there that will critique your Technique and lighting joints really I look at it could you get everything I think I have one of the best joint lighting techniques and I think my problem is listening to them the problem is not them saying it the problem is if you like tune into all the stuff the Chappelle's got it

he doesn't do anything he's got no no social media at all man's genius you don't want to get contaminated he's just got it locked into what he's doing just constantly doing shows he was doing shows pretty late up until the the cancellation I did forget the last day I did a show

man I think it was I think it was

hmm I don't remember but by Friday everything was cancelled by Friday we were like we can't do this yeah I remember talking to you about that man I was fucking weird was weird how many stores shut down man that's like the Wii but it had to it has him and for everybody that skeptical it's really about old folks and folks that are immune compromised I mean if you look at Idris Elba on his Twitter page that guy first of all that guy's a stud mean that guy had a lot of respect for that guy because not only is a badass Act

but he also had a real muy Thai fight hit a real amateur muy thai fighters training Muay Thai and got into it as a fucking huge movie star and it's a real fight if you watch it they're really fighting really yes yeah it's fun movie is this not a move we why don't know what he trained he trained it probably for he was in James Bond right wasn't he is probably some shit ton of movies he's definitely done movies we're here to fuck people up so he probably trained martial arts for that or maybe just enjoyed doing it but it really got into Muay Thai and he actually had a fight

right and if you look good you look good he looked like a really good amateur you know and he he fought hard it was a real battle between him and this other guy but he has it and he's been doing these videos updating and talking to people on his Twitter and he seems fine he seems fun but he's really healthy he's a robust healthy well-kept man he takes care of himself yeah same same as a lot of these NBA players that have supposedly have it a lot of them are asymptomatic it's not we're not worried about them we're not look at old

people were worried about people that are overweight people that smoke cigarettes that's but this is a wake-up call to a way worse disease like if this was the avian flu if this was if this was something that kills 60% of the people like you know there's an article in the Atlantic about this I think it's this is where I found that the avian flu killed like it was like 60% the one that they killed all the chickens in the early 2000s it was 60% fatality rate so if you got it it was more likely to kill you the not

kill you Jesus Christ yeah and they got rid of that one pretty quick but that kind of one is what we got to be really worried about this one we have to be worried about for our older folks and our folks that aren't doing well but it's a good wake-up call it's good look no one responded perfectly no one terms of no cities no countries no one did but everybody got caught off guard you have to realize everybody got caught off guard we didn't know the only way they really know that something like this is going to happen is that that it happens and then there has to be a response so now we're going to

better at figuring out what to do so my hope is that we get through this and then it makes us a little nicer to each other and then we also realize okay we have to have a plan in place in case a really bad one happens and we have to figure out what steps can be done to make sure that doesn't happen again right yeah man I mean this is that is definitely what if we needed something like this I wish it wasn't something that is going to kill a lot of people's grandparents and I wish it was something

something a little less but damn you're totally right man because it's been a long time since we've had as a planet deal with a problem in this level and it's teaching us that there is a global civilization is teaching us that we are interconnected and it's definitely inviting us to reprioritize our lives man because holy shit and there's consequences to living in a way that you don't feel are healthier ethical

like one of the reasons why they have those ag-gag laws we're not allowed to film factory farms is because because people would find it horrific right and that would be bad for business well that's not how we're supposed to look at it see that is a that's that's a symptom of terrible thinking right supposed to be the opposite way we're supposed to make it so that it's not horrific to look at right there were supposed to make it so that it's not this terrible thing now that's the difference between doing things that are that feel natural

and doing things that are horrific and the horrific ones are the ones where all the diseases are coming from if you think about these farming operations like but just like let's just think about these wet markets when you got all these animals in the open are piled on top of each other dead animals laying on a plate dead animals laying on the table some late stretched out on the floor and you have them all over the place you're going to have problems there's going to be a air and heat and bacteria is going to mix with each other

and then it creates things that's what happened with the avian flu that happened in in animal agriculture swine flu same thing these fucking flus these horrible bugs a lot of them come from animals the you don't think it was a bio weapon no I don't think so I don't think so I think the real fear if you talk to all the experts the real fear is an actual known thing jumping from animal to human we talked that's what assist yeah when we were at the cdc.gov forget it I'll never forget it either Gary is fucking interview ever of all the not just that show just too

all time sitting with that I wish I could remember his name the guy who ran this the head of the place didn't we have some crazy flight to we flew in we didn't have any sleep when it's something nutty stuff flight because we got Stone and we talked at the airport and we talked for like a fucking hour and a half and then suddenly were like oh fuck our flight that's right we didn't just miss it by like 5 minutes either we missed it by like 20 30 minutes and we were at the airport and it was empty that therefore

we're like oh fuck man we've usually there's a we have to tape this show tomorrow you remember yeah so we had a fly different flight and we like barely got an hour sleep right I think they're I think one of us might have had some modafinil oh that's right we took that stuff yeah that's tough if you've never liked new vigil if you've never had or provigil or new visual I think the real similar I don't remember which one are used and Provigil is what I used no new vigil that's what I used

definitely yeah the new one and it it doesn't it's not speed now but it definitely gives you energy and keeps you awake in the weirdest way it's like but you're making it an agreement like okay here's my grandma I want to stay up but I promise to get sleep from now on I'll get sleep the next day I'm not going to keep using this is not something I'm going to keep using stay up all the time no no that's what you go crazy that's you can use it for that like if you're a real crazy but like I know some people that use that shit for writing the right on that chair and

I feel like without it they don't feel like they have any energy yeah man I mean that's the Trap of all those things any kind anything that's any kind of nootropics going to do that man it's like but also I think some people from the sleep deprivation that's where they become antennas for the good ideas you know they like oh yeah and it's like fevered state of not sleeping for days at a time and go literally insane and somewhere in there they write really good stuff that's what you know Newsradio the staff and

news radio they used to do that on purpose Paul salim's Paul Sims brilliant guy the guy who created news radio and he thought it would be a good idea to have a writing staff fill with a bunch of psychos who were willing to play video games and stay up till 4 o'clock in the morning every night there was like this mad Vagabond crew of riders that he had assembled and they would play video games and just talk shit and then they would start writing at like 2 a.m. sometimes but they would come up with

amazing scripts because in the scripts were so ridiculous some of them were so ridiculous and it's because they were Delirious when they're writing them they were just instead of doing drugs they were doing the drug of staying awake dude this is for me I've described started doing this about six months ago maybe a little longer waking up at 4 a.m. regardless of when I went to sleep I was having some insomnia and so I started I realized like shit I'll just like wake up when I wake up

and then waking up 4 a.m. if you have insomnia that is going to cure your fucking insomnia because when night time rolls around you're exhausted but not only that for am is like the great time for writing weird shit oh he's here still half asleep and the stuff you write is it's like really feels like you're tripping you know especially waking up at 4 a.m. and then like eating weed I was doing that so you do eat we eat first and then start writing

yeah well now what my system before the fucking apocalypse was and again I wasn't doing this every day but I did do it for a stretch because I got into David Goggins the Goggins flew man waking up before I gotta go I gotta go but for am eat we'd go to the gym and because I was at the gym because I was at the gym that's where I would write you are there that early well now because it would open it I got there once before the gym

opens most a photo Salvage no I didn't do because what happened was I got to the gym and then I did I felt pretty fucking cool but then I went into the car and I like 30 minutes to blow and I'm fucking Stone man and I'm sitting there baked and I'm like fuck it I'll just like sit sit in the car and try to meditate this is in the parking garage of the goddamn Hollywood Equinox now let me tell you something man that area of Hollywood is already fucking weird but I'm sitting there with my eyes closed and kind

tripping feel like I'm half asleep half awake I look over there are two dudes creeping up to my car window creeping up there and I'm like what the fuck I was sitting in the passenger side I jumped to the driver side started the car I'm driving through the parking garage stoned these two weirdos were definitely walking up to my car I'm like tripping like what the fuck fuck I'm fuck I'm not going to work out and so I leave and I'm like what

the fuck I'm going to let these two like for am weird vampires stop me from working out so I drive back in one of them is like leaning up against a pillar like just staring at me creepy do these people look like the lost boys or something you're probably praying on the cars of people that go to work out the probably looking for Carter break into right and that's what it look for am people that are out on meth and they know that this is assholes like to go to the gym and leave their shit in their car right

there you go there you go it was terrifying but you know it does that's what you get for 5 4 to 5 a.m. is you get math heads and you get people who are trying to improve their lives is the funniest mix of people you get people are like I'm not going to waste a fucking second I'm gonna get up early I'm gonna exercise I'm going to write because that's when like I mean this is a woowoo idea feel free to light that shit again but like there's a there's an idea of Prana

which is like energy and there's more energy in the morning than there is at night so if you get up at four you're getting like the purest most amount of this shit so that's why a lot of people meditate it really early why like a lot of monks get up really early is because like it's a I don't know it's just a very it's the most psychedelic time way more psychedelic than like midnight yeah it has you're having you're exerting some form of control

of your life that especially right here that you're inserting discipline like my friend Jocko he says discipline equals Freedom he gets up every morning at 4:30 there you go and he puts a photo of his watch on Instagram and usually it says go time or something along those lines get after it fucking every fucking day I know it's the best driving before the pandemic when there is still traffic driving around at 4 a.m. you're awake you're half-asleep also it's I think it's

easier to work out that early because you're but whatever part of you resist that shit is just like week gonna be careful lifting weights in the morning you got to really want to warm up because you can injure yourself a little easier sometimes can have that yeah because you sleep it all night you're kind of stiff you want to warm everything up get everything going they say that people lifting weights it's not the best idea to lift like your personal record deadlifts and shit like that first thing in the morning it's just yeah you got to heat your body up and make sense your body's more heated up by the end of the day by the end of the day you will lose

has she been walking around doing stuff looking forward to your workout getting pumped and then you can go in there workout I used to love Jiu-Jitsu class at 8:30 p.m. for me that was perfect because you just do is like eight at 8:30 it's like man I got plenty energy I'm eating all day you know it's like I'm not tired yet like going to bed tired but you know because back then I was going to bed at like 2 o'clock in the morning every night anyway but it was like 8:30 was perfect well done by 10:00 I'd hit The Comedy Store be onstage at 11:00 that's crazy I don't like working

night I loved it loved it it's great because you're you have energy but you but it's easy to do because you wake up at noon you know and just fucking stumble out of bed do whatever bullshit you have to do that day if I my day off if I'm you know doing stand-up at night yeah it's easy you just eat and hang out and then eventually work out but if you get up in the morning get a little bit of a victory yeah a little bit of a victory just having accomplished that thing you've gotten up and then next thing you know you're doing chin-ups maybe you're doing kiddo

oops you know doing a chance well I could do like to do then due to what I would what more what it would be is like me sitting on those nice couches at equinox writing because like I said it's gonna work out yeah I would procrastinate and that's not realize it's like I do my best writing at the gym that's hilarious would you bring a little notebook without yeah I just started bringing my gear there to write and then I would just sit and write and we're hold spend so much time writing because of that part of you that doesn't want to work out

I would rather write yeah it's like when you have to write and you find yourself cleaning it's that you know you can like sort of convert your procrastination into something positive yeah that's interesting then I would go work out you know but I would like I was so when I was doing that man I was getting the best ideas I was just running on the treadmill stoned if you know 5:30 or whenever the fucking gym open and you're always listening to this like I started listening to that was when I was listening Goggins so

I'll be blasted listening to Goggins running on the fucking treadmill like yeah fuck yeah I'm gonna do an ultra fucking Marathon how about that I'm never gonna go ultramarathon you listen to him too and he's aware that people like me are going to be hypnotized by him because he's like don't do what I'm doing you can kill yourself or just exploding into it how many people do you think of collapsed at the gym because a David Goggins about like what

3,000 people just like driven themselves yeah for sure this probably a lot of blown out and he's out there alone I fucked up backs can biceps that guy run with this but falling off the step book is really good what's that it's called can't hurt me hurt me yeah jeez it's like it's amazing he likes soze's calf muscle back on twigs and the company Navy SEAL he's a badass man a hundred percent that guy could like I could like if that guy wanted to like

oh into an elephant he could he's a good dude to I like hanging out with him he must be I've hung out with him a few times gone to dinner a few times groans yeah who went to the fights couple times he's a good dude he's a fun guy he might enjoy them me and my friend think he's enlightened he's something he's something special there's there's a switch to that guy has that we all wish we had where he can he can power through but also he's a beacon of inspiration like for other people when David God

does the shit that he does and and when he has those speeches while he's running you know he's like someone's talking it was like a hundred four degrees outside and he goes why you running because I'll tell you why I'm running because you're not motherfucker that's why I'm running and you know he's out there just cause I mean he's he's constantly doing it like he's constantly pushing himself that's what I love Yeah me that's this he's

like a servant in that way he's a servant he's a servant to the world he's not just like he's really giving people because like he's put he post pictures of himself when he was like sort of fat all the time and I'm like yeah it's showing people like look this is the possibility any moment you can do this at any moment and I love that because I do I know when I see him like he's like running through glass he's running like you know he's like so running through like swarms of mosquitoes and malarial

just to show people look it doesn't the part of you that's telling you that you can't do this because of X in your environment is probably wrong not all the time but for sure man a lot of the time wrong A lot of times and not for a lot of us that's like so powerful like I've Nev all the self-help books I've listened to I listened to inaudible that's the best one by far hands down that's the best one man but

because it's real it's not from a guy who really hasn't done anything that's trying to get you motivated to go out there and Conquer and life it's from a guy who's actually done some really fucking crazy shit and it's telling you that you can do it too and that he used to be weak yeah he's doing something right now because Cameron Haynes son true it is trying to break Goggins 24-hour chin up record so Goggins was at he was like what can I think it's on Cameron Hayes his Instagram page see if he let put the video on his Instagram page

but he was at some ungodly number of chin-ups what when they were making the video he's trying to break that break that yeah he's like I've been doing chin-ups for nine hours straight fuck that can you put that like 1500 chin UPS or some stupid crazy yeah and he still had all those hours to go so I think it might even be like a two-day thing I don't know how many days are supposed to be doing this

but it's um does he have it in there with Goggins is there a video of Goggins doing chin-ups

I mean the stories have got that hope I'm not releasing any information that shouldn't get out

is this live again dope there yeah

can't find it yeah whatever anyway he went to see the show he's doing I would love to see her show so anyway shout out to trot out shout out to true it is true it shout out to Goggins I hope I hope they battle all right this thing Netflix I told her what's it called its called the midnight gospel the midnight gospel with Duncan Trussell in Pendleton Ward the guy who made Adventure Ryan it's beautiful

did it comes out 420 look at that Netflix this has never been seen they its exclusive for your show they gave us permission yes jet this is Joey Diaz is in this and this is a podcast I did taking off my glasses yeah I gotta take my this is a podcast I did with Damien Echols do you know that is he was like in the group of kids who got accused of murdering someone in the woods there's a whole no oh yeah there's like a whole documentary

about him on I think HBO it's like basically he with this dude the I had him on my podcast he wrote a book on Magic he practices magic but Jesus told he was on he was on death row and they did a DNA test that exonerated but he was like about to be executed he's on death row studying Zen Buddhism like Z as in Priest was working with him to like basically like you know prepare him for his death

how serious he was badly beaten on death row he was almost executed then he was exonerated because of DNA but we did this interview before the show obviously and this is just a way that we figured out to Take podcast and put them in a once he gets exonerated did it before we start this does he get do they have to pay him I don't know it's a great question I think maybe part of it that they may I'm not I don't want to say because I have no idea I have no idea I think they kind of saint

death row yeah wrong we mean it seems like you owe him something well yeah I would literally innocent yeah I would see an actual innocent person that you almost killed and the tree made their life hell yeah me neither the torture of knowing you didn't do something but being accused of that thing well I now man knowing it's going to cost you your life it really didn't do it yeah

it was play

you know how in certain Buddhist Traditions yeah likes a Tibetan Buddhism they talk about what's the word they use empowerment sure you know it's like a current of energy yeah it's passed along from Master to student ceremonial magic is the exact same thing the Knights Templar started receiving this current whenever they were over there that's how it makes its way back to Europe eventually it makes its way to the United States through the Hermetic Order of the Golden Dawn which was the order that Crowley was a member of before he you know went off to the Oto you had

Gregor Mathers Dion Fortune the poet WB Yeats all of these people were members of the Golden Dawn that's how this current makes its way to the US one second

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so Duncan Trussell and so bizarre yeah yeah wow yeah man it was like it was the craziest thing working on that show at Pendleton because he's like a like you know we throw the word genius around the guy's an actual genius so it was like really really really cool to get to do just so sorry to interrupt you but it's so it's a combination of your podcast and then

some interstitial stuff that like you that you is like scripted it yeah it's like basically my character is this guy Clancy who lives in a place called The chromatic ribbon where people use Multiverse simulators to simulate universes so that they go inside and harvest the technology and sell it and so my character has a malfunctioning used Multiverse simulator that isn't really working to produce

Gigi and because it's malfunctioning every single World in it is going through some kind of apocalypse and so my character goes into his simulator and interviews people and the Dying World so that's basically the idea of the show so we took podcast dialogue it's basically what happens with you know during the apocalypse what's going to happen people are going to do podcast people are going to still have conversations so these conversations we just set them in these surreal universes where shit

melting down and you know we're like Clancy meets these various people and kind of learns from them what's crazy is you started this a long time ago and it's coming to fruition right when the apocalypse hits I know dude that's the thing it's like a little on the nose I mean you know it's on the nose yeah yeah I mean it's like it's almost like it's it's almost like you knew it's almost like you had a tie

and then the universe is like this is a perfect time for Duncan shit to come out and let's let's go inside it I mean look at just look at how bizarre your show is yeah strange and then the fact that it's a hybrid of podcast conversations and then written stuff so strange yeah perfect time for it yeah you know I think it is a perfect time for it and I hope like because some of the like every guest we with we chose for this they all had this like

really like amazing thing to say like echolls in this episode one of the things he says you know I asked him like do you feel like you kind of like we're blessed that you ended up in solitary confinement because that's where he woke up and we started meditating that's where he started studying magic that's where he started working on himself because there was nothing else to do right and in this one he says like I feel luckier than some Millennials out there right now who are like completely disconnected because

the coolest thing about him is he would expect a person who'd been on death row to be bitter these he's the sweetest most genuine wonderful person ever and it's like whatever went on in the situation of being on the brink of the Abyss where is about to get murdered by the state for something you didn't do something about that didn't turn him into someone who is like shell-shocked or angry but like really turned him into like someone

very compassionate and I guess grateful for his life you know and that to me like it's like he's like the Goggins of death row I mean if you can be not bitter after being on death row for something you didn't do and like getting physically assaulted you know just wondering every day if you were going to die if like you can still maintain an attitude of service or contribution to society in some way or another than any of us can

any of us can you know like any of us can and to me that's like I think that's I hope some of that stuff trickles out from the show and to the world right now especially man right now especially when you say studies magic what do you mean by that so well he wrote a great book called High magic which is I think that's what's called it's a fantastic book on Magic is really the wrong word for it there's a entire like Mythos or religion

that got sort of wiped out by Terence McKenna talks about it a lot I got kind of wiped out by I get you know Superstition so witchcraft is we understand it now because of Hollywood is like you know ladies riding around on brooms and shit but it just used to be mid with her you used to be like healing women who would like deliver babies and stuff real and but these were these were all connected to their all had Pagan roots and and

so essentially you can follow back this branch of data that some people say started in Sumeria or Egypt ways of meditating ways of connecting with the universe that are ritualistic in nature but see mysterious to us because even though like if you want to see what it looks like just look at a Catholic mass you're looking at a ceremony it's theurgy I guess you'd call it that is a magical ceremony where

bread gets converted into the Flesh of a God that you eat so that's a your watch they're all wearing robes they're burning incense so that is Magic that's what ceremonial magic looks like it's nondifferent from ceremonial magic someone in the Catholic Church my tell you this isn't Magic this is me praying to the infinite and asking for forgiveness that's magic you're connecting with a Divine intelligence you're hoping for

your connection with the Divine intelligence to produce some change in your own psychology in your own life and maybe create good fortune or whatever it is you're praying for healing whatever it may be that's magic so magic is that and that it's I'm not saying the Catholic Catholicism would necessarily be considered

a branch of magic I mean one of the things he said in this interview is like if the Bible is one of the most powerful magical grimoires there is I mean you read that shit if you really look in it there's all kinds of bizarre stuff that doesn't seem to make it onto a Christian radio look what well like when in the Book of Genesis it's why are they saying why do they refer to themselves as a plurality when God's talking it's not like if when they're saying like why do we throw Adam and Eve out of the garden

it's we if we don't do something about this they will become like us we there's a plurality that's being mentioned there and so what does that plurality so throughout the Bible there's mentions of angels The Book of Ezekiel the famous one that ufo-ologists go to yeah is that there's all these contacts with angels a hyperdimensional beings that have some data set they want to bring to the world quite often depending on what book you're in it some terrifying prophecy about the end of the world that's coming

me but sometimes it's you know some message of Hope for some message of healing so you could say magic is a non-Christian oriented method for connecting with those various entities using ritual that's one branch of it now I'm not saying by the way these beings exist or don't exist but you could say if you wanted to get like psychologically you could say we have buried inside of us

bit archetypes bits of the collective that are buried deep inside of us and that there are ways to connect to these little fragments of the collective mind and you know many people know they have their own method for doing that one of the methods to do that might be doing a ritual and for a moment allowing yourself to imagine that you're trying to talk to an extra dimensional being Aleister Crowley's

famously did one of these rituals and contacted a god what was I can't remember the being was called but it looks like a gray alien this is before people were talking about grey aliens we've looked at it draw it he drove me something drawing of it yeah and it looks like a gray alien and what year was this like the 1800s Aleister Crowley was in the 1800's yeah right 1980 1980 pulling at your ghillie suit you remind me of a drunk overweight girl with large breasts the keep suggesting a halt

or top here in Florida outside drinking at some Motel right I told that motherfucker I'm Gonna Leave You I'm Gonna Leave You Clarence I'm tired of your bullshit I told him what with a cigarette in her hand wow look at that drawing by Aleister Crowley yeah that does look like your grey alien yeah man and he lets we're going to look like man let's cut the shit right that's we're going to look like right when you when you see people that are hairy and and and brutish you we think of them as being

like closer to prehistoric man right yeah see a guy covered in hair he looks more like a beast yeah and when we see people that are thinner and s'more slender they become more a gentle version of people and we associate that oftentimes the intelligence we associate directly associate intelligence with Frailty right we all do that when you see some Super Genius Guy usually they're frail right occasionally they're badasses but there's a lot of those super genius guys

couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag right well Hawkings the ultimate example because his body literally failed him while he was coming over his greatest discoveries yeah so this is this our future I've never had big heads we're gonna they're gonna fucking crisper your way into a head that lets you live in any Dimension you wanted any time you transport yourself from one planet to the other we're imagine what we've done with our stupid monkey brains now imagine it was

a hundred and fifty percent larger a hundred and fifty percent more brain and then Incorporated all sorts of fucking electronics that lets you interface with space-time around you and all kinds of other wacky ways of communicating we couldn't even possibly imagine now just like people from the eighteen hundreds couldn't have ever possibly imagine cell phones right and this is the idea is like okay we're going to go there and then when we get there the way we understand space-time is going to be different than the way we understand it now yeah

so what that means is theoretically you could connect or communicate with a being that is outside of space-time which is a future version of us right now using like various methods DMT being one of the big ones on the planet right now but also using other methods that are a little bit more precise because with DMT it's kind of like you're not really putting in GPS coordinates necessarily some people do it with intention like a shaman will do it like

with intention and can like you know I excuse me can you give me another bloody mary I told you Clarence I'll fucking leave you cigarette in your hand flip flops on I will fucking leave you here it's if you keep some of these demons I am out of here Clarence is over there will Miller Lite you ain't going nowhere just stop just fucking stop you always do this she gets drunk says she's leaving I'm a fucking leave Clarence I'm gonna fucking leave you son of a bitch

I'm putting all my ghillie suit and going down to Tampa you son of a bitch I'm going to visit my family and Clearwater I'm out of here Clarence it's over anyway yeah maybe you can connect through time and space to these things that are already here like our understanding of time and space were locked in man but like so magic is like ridiculous on one level as it absolutely sounds and is on one level on another level is at the very least a creative technique so that you

in sort of some in a dream state while you're awake with the intent of causing some change in the world around you using for a lot of people would be considered a non-standard way but just in terms of your perception of how you view the world you can alter that pretty radically I mean from someone who has an amazingly positive perception versus someone has an amazingly negative perception you look at the results right over overwhelming benefit of being a positive person overwhelming there's something to thought

thoughts and ideas that Propel you in a good way and two for having a good architecture for having a good philosophy having a good operating manual for how you view the world and how you act and behave part of that so you getting up at four o'clock in the morning that's what that is you like enforcing your ability to sort of dictate the positive aspects of your future you're deciding to take action you're strengthening your bond with the with the way you interface with current reality and I was doing

I mean not rigid happening let's stop what the fuck out Christmas hmm god listen man if you want to meet me here I'll meet you here we could do some five am sessions I love that man I mean yeah I would love that do it I'm a hundred percent down yeah come down here we'll get pump will put Slayer on and Falcon walk out I'm down what else do we have to do but else we have to do is be a great thing look I'll tell you one thing though I am enjoying not going out I'm enjoying it I'm enjoying

being home most of the day I was in the time of the days I do podcast but not doing shows at night gives you so much more energy yeah oh my God it's crazy you like can you feel like rested feel good I fucking love it man it's how I get to be with my son more it's like really nice the place we just moved into who ever lived there before us had a flourishing Garden so I've just been going out back pulling spinach out of the ground like I know man it's the left you food they left his food that's pretty dope yeah that's such a

such a smart thing if you have a yard I get mad at myself for not having a garden looking on the garden right now I've had one in the past but I don't have a garden right now yeah I think it's a like especially now we should realize like man you should have food in a freezer somewhere you should have a garden that's right and a gun but I got some milk for you do you really oh yeah man a lot of the truck is would be very grateful yep personally I have I bought a box of these insulated freezer bags for people to thank you that such a that's a nice

nice aspect of being a hunter because you have you get hundreds of pounds of meat from one animal so you can share that with a lot of people it's really it's a fail makes me feel real good that I'm giving some to people in the send me pictures of cooked food but Tom Papa just sent me this picture really it's roast that he cooked yeah he's an elk Fein now Tom Papa he's a shitload of elq well I don't think I've ever had helped you'd love it it's delicious I'm gonna give you a bunch of different kinds but the sausage is the easiest to make cool so easy you just pan-fry it you can do it in butter I prefer to do it in beef tallow

I just seared in beef Tallow my favorite way to do it is I get to get it to like a medium medium temperature and then I put tomato sauce in it and let simmer in the tomato sauce man you're the best that's gonna be so cool from my kid to have apocalyptic Rogan elk that's going to be the best to bring back elq during a pandemic to your family well that's an I mean that's an elk that died from a shot from a bow and arrow you know mean that's a

there's something about that to me that there's there's more power to the the meat it's like I'm not more power in that it's like a powerful thing to do more power in that like I know what that animal was that animal is a wild beast of evading predators and me a stupid doughy human being managed to sneak into range or I could hit it and kill it in one shot with a bow and arrow even have a video of it that my friend campaigns took so I have this

animal the dropped and then we took it apart and put it and now I eat it when I eat it I think of what that animal was that animal lived a majestic life and if I didn't take it out it would have gotten taken out by mountain lions or Bears or would have froze to death in the winter sometimes that happens their teeth get ground down and it was an older male 2 which is what you want to get because those are the ones that have passed their DNA down so there's a story to that meat and there's a connection to that meat and there's no risk from that meet when you're when you're thinking about the risk

to Society of like these kind of diseases that happen through agriculture I think one of the reasons why that is is because it's not natural ever for animals to be stuff together like that so when it is Nature's just like fuck you for breaking the rules and then these viruses start spreading it's almost like that's what it is for being unnatural because the those kind of diseases don't exist that much in animals in nature they do sometimes like Bruce Lee

Moses like some buffalo have brucellosis it's a bad disease that cattle can get and then it can infect the cattle and sometimes L Cavett to if there's a few diseases like animals always have diseases but it seems like those ones that jump to people the vast majority of them have come from us treating animals in a very unnatural way that's true but dude I don't mean to get all conspiratorial here but isn't it a little weird that we will Han is where that virology laboratory was

it is yeah I mean like I don't know to me they're just weird but it's also weird that there's bats laying on the floor there good point that's weird too and we know for a fact that diseases jump from date they're tracing these things this is what's fucked up Michael osterholm who was on who was he's a expert in infectious diseases and viruses and stuff like that he was explaining to us how they know certain diseases are morphing and the changing the be

more and more human-like and they were talking about this actually this one that deer get that's called CWD and it's called chronic wasting disease and its first discovered at my friend Doug during sent me a synopsis of when they first discovered it but I believed it existed in like the 1980s as when they first started seeing it in animals but it was like a mule deer here and animal there but now it's infected like a giant population of deer in the Midwest and they don't really have a cure

her for it it's fatal a hundred percent of the time and it hasn't made the jump to people but it could and they're scared and Michael osterholm was saying is basically these things are morphing all the time they're becoming more and more human like they're becoming more and more like something that can invade the human host see that bro that's terrifying terrifying terrifying and I think there's a battle constantly going on between these things that hog up too much resources

take up too much of a population slice like humans were on every goddamn Rock everywhere and nature tries to throw curve balls at you I mean that's what nature does nature is like what are you doing you live in your own shit oh great here's the plague you know like that's what's happened throughout history with whether it was with poor sanitation or whether it was you know animal agriculture whatever the fuck it is people have caught weird diseases throughout time whether it's different animals could bite you and give you a Bola you know that kind of shit these mean these weird

diseases have existed forever and they're basically the same as like viral Panthers right what's a panther a Panthers had to make sure there's not too many deer yeah Panther is the fucking Cleanup Crew because if it wasn't for that there would be fucking deer everywhere you're from North Carolina yeah you know what it's like in the country it's crazy sometimes because North Carolina doesn't have any mountain lions North Carolina's know any wolves so I may be they have a little bit of wolves but not

not a lot right you got some bears and they got a lot of deer yeah fucking everywhere look at New York State they have a terrible situation with deer and like Long Island there's parts of Long Island they were infested with deer and the like what are we doing we can't what do you know just shoot them just gonna go out and see the trying to give them birth control the thinking about giving deers birth control yes because there's no animals out there to eat them so they just keep fucking these keep fucking and overpopulating did you read the stand yes I did remember that seat that was one of the

things he talks about is how is they're going down the highway they would hit like herds of deer so thick that's it would like block the highway because there are like starting to overpopulate there because there is no one there to cull the herd dude I had a gig once when I was living in New York and it was in Western Massachusetts so Western Massachusetts if you are in New York where I was in New Rochelle you could get there in a few hours like there's like two and a half three hours or something like that you get to wear this area is and where the fucking

big was was so infested with dear I've never seen anything like it in my life you're driving down the street and it's probably it was hot out so it's probably the summer so I was driving down the street and these things are just jumping in front of the car left and Reynolds like this is nuts coming home on the highway was terrifying I had to go 30 miles an hour on the highway just with my foot hovering just ready to stomp on the brakes because these motherfuckers were just running in front of the highway I saw a hundred of them

um I saw him all over the place I might have seen 200 of them driving home everywhere you look there was fucking dear yeah why because there's no Predators it's an imbalance and eventually something's going to happen and one of the things that has happened is Lyme disease these fucking deer have spread this terrible disease to so many people out there through The Tick's the ticks have jumped from the deep the the deer because there's so many of them there's fucking ticks everywhere because they're well fed and like some ungodly percentage these ticks have fucking Lyme disease right and they jump on people and give it to people

people get sick you know and then the people have to have a reaction to these deer so they want to go out and Slaughter the deer just to me it's almost like nature is trying to balance itself out right or is bad I mean like you know for us that goddamn Cove and 19 is the worst thing that's happened to people in their lifetime in the sense like this shit works period see right now is completely unique yeah for covert 19

I guess it's the equivalent of humans like colonizing another planet like that fucking virus just like what it did is for it's amazing like it finally made its way out of one biome into another it pulled it off whoever was down there mutating somebody had the great idea to like do whatever they did I guess it's like to create a way to connect to those two receptors what's it called this like it's like a

it connects to these two anyway I don't even know what the fuck I'm talking about it that's okay it's like but it's like what it did is so spectacular for the virus what's a you know catastrophe for humans it's glory for the Cove it 19 like superorganism this now sweeping through the human biome you know yeah and you know what else it did this really interesting it made it so that it doesn't give you any symptoms and you're still contagious for days the worst case scenario so you

you just keep spreading it yeah yeah there was I was reading a friend sent me an email from Aspen where apparently there's one Australian tourists a bunch of Australian tours had it but one guy refused to quarantine and he went skiing and went to restaurants rode the bus and like it's like a movie it's but that's a movie right like that's what happens in a movie like there's this new thing going around and this guy is like fuck that I'm here to ski yeah it's like I'm here to ski I'm going to eat I'm going to a restaurant I'm right

the bus fucking wow what a dick but that's in the movie that's what happens right there's a guy who's in the lab and they'll like you have to be quarantined the lab in the guys like Fuck this I'm going outside and he has a cigarette and then something bites him and runs off and then that think carries it in its teeth and bite some a person and the next thing it spreads to people and bugs and next thing you know it's a fucking epidemic and it goes through this and then turns everybody into zombies yeah that's 28 Days Later right was it a monkey they were working on some sort of a disease the monkey got out

Peta rage was like some pee it was a it was an animal rights group trying to free monkeys that had an experimental shit have been pumped into them and the monkeys like attack the people trying to save them yes people instantly instantly turn into zombies and spread through the planet well I was reading about this mountain lion the tried to attack this but I think it was a police officer well someone I forget who the but the cops had wind up shooting the mountain line but the the mountain lion had rabies and know how

he has rabies it rabies tricks you into biting people to give them rabies like raccoons raccoons usually terrified of people that just run up on you and they got rabies squirrels rats all sorts of things they're not scared you at all so just fucking Jack you if they have rabies they come after you and you're like what the fuck is going on that thing is trying to give you it's disease it's a zombie movie and if you don't go to a doctor if you go to the doctor they can fix it but if you don't go to a doctor rabies is fatal it's just straight up fatal there's

like one person ever that survived from rabies and he probably wishes he didn't well I see problem is horrific probably I mean I don't know I don't even have permanent like Bruno was it and there's very few cases of people surviving it's more than 99 percent fatal rabies is a terrible disease to die from apparently to so it looks fucking awful man but there's a lot of animals that have it and they want to bite you that's so crazy it makes normally animals that are afraid of people makes them aggressive to people

I mean dude did you read that thing about that guy who like knew he had AIDS and was infecting people on purpose he was like getting off on like giving people ate like you wonder how much of that was his decision and how much of it was some dark mutation where it started yes I mean because think of like okay I'm trying to spread I know you do this I do it I've try not to do it as much but the spreading of bad news like you hear some bad thing that just happened this person die

I'd this catastrophe happened you get on the phone and call somewhere like hey did you hear and there's this weird rush in like spreading the bad news you're kind of getting off on it so in the same way your idea swarm concept it's the same thing with bad news you become a carrier for the darkness and so you call it now I'm not saying don't tell people and awful shit's going on but sometimes I notice I'll go through periods where all I'm doing is telling people about shit they should be afraid of yeah

no spreading and usually the way you do it is through some story about what's happening in the world and that's really a form of contagion you know and then that spreads and spreads and spreads and spreads and then everyone's freaked the fuck out and who knows man maybe that creates the condition of sleepiness or sleepwalking that we need for these viruses do appear you know wonder what it is that's so attractive to us about breaking the news I don't know did you hear who died I used to hear what

happened in India when Michael Jackson died I made a point I don't want every single one who called me you're in town I know they're like you here I'm like no what just to get them off to let them have the moment I was like I hadn't heard yet like holy shit really that's hilarious wow wow know you've got to be fucking kidding me you're joking right because it's like that you know for them I don't know what that feeling is that's hilarious

do it the next time some awful thing happens I give you friends the satisfaction of know now they're going to hear this podcast no use your check it's true though man what is the rush of telling people

I don't know it's probably built into its right because it's like a survival thing like if you were if you were in a community and you knew a fire was coming you want to tell people so there's probably some reward mechanism worst is when someone told you but the you forgot they told you so you try to tell them and then like I told you City listener I broke the news to you my wife does that to me all the time she's like I told you dummy Mike oh no that's the worst when you get caught not listening good

I knew I was just saying it again yeah yeah you try to be sympathetic escape from your lack of from your failure yeah yeah really really feel I did to myself no I knew exactly remember I know I know I know I'm just talking out loud all right is but that's the worst that my wife has done that actually I where she's like wait what did I just say and you're like who you were talking about the baby oh yeah when people around

each other all the time they learn how to filter each other out they have to need your loan space and sometimes you get it while you're still there you get it but why are you still there by zoning out you just gotta be present more than you are doing that that's right that's that seems to be the key you got his own man it's okay to Zone like don't get into some ridiculous definitely don't beat yourself up for zoning no well especially as a creative person I think zoning spacing out sometimes and just being bored sometimes where the best ideas come from yeah because you can sit around

think about things like today we're never bored I mean this is a this is a common complaint about people when they're talking about one of the consequences unintended consequences of social media addiction is that you're never bored and that being bored is actually probably not a bad thing because it fills your head up with ideas you start thinking about things and occasionally thinking about things that are good that you might not have thought of if you just stare into people's butts on Instagram that's right yeah boredom well that's like guy I work with you like with meditations guy Dave

and Nick turn we tell he teaches me about boredom we it's a Buddhist concept hot boredom and cool boredom there's two types of boredom one of them is where you're like man that's like the addictive boredom where you're like I'm going to get out I got to get you know I'm bored but there's this sense of like the other type of boredom cool boredom that's more like what you're talking about yeah which is like just being okay where you're at in the moment but admitting to yourself this is boring like that's one of the things boring like board right now

YouTube videos are more fun we go see something crazy on YouTube so car chase yeah it's a fucking do you ever like go to your phone when you wake up at night they do that is that your go-to like when I wake up at night he ever wake up at night I do and I try to go back to sleep I never just stay up I just go back to sleep see that's what I man I got to stop doing it because I'll wake up and the first thing I do reach over for the phone start looking at it waiting to get sleepy again that doesn't make you sleepy wakes you up wakes you up that's not good it stimulates that

at area of your brain that gets lit up by Electronics be D ppppp so exciting and stimulating next thing you know you're awake I do the the smoke pot thing to and then right but sometimes I do the smoke pot and workout thing and then it becomes the smoke pot and right thing just because of the The Rush right after you get high is like those are within the best ideas come from and like I feel like you gotta grab those fuckers while you have them and if it means postponing your work out for an hour like that's actually

smart thing to do it's the the dumb thing to do to go through the workout first because especially if you got high because those ideas they're coming hard and fast for like the first part of the high and you probably won't get them like that for the rest of the high so while you go from being straight sober to the big rush that you get in the beginning that's when all my best ideas come from the big rush which is like an hour from getting high to an hour later that's the big rush that's when I feel like I get the most like where the fuck that

that come from ideas yeah and the best writing like when I write things it's like the cleanest the the filled with the most gems there's more stuff in it and then the other stuff is like editing it and putting it apart and taking apart but if you don't capitalize on that rush I feel like you only get one of those a day one big especially like if you're if you're sober and then you get high that one first High Rush of the day that's not doesn't last that long and if you keep staying High I don't think it's the same

Staying High sort of settle in right yeah yeah but the rush of just getting high like wow wow yeah so any ideas if you wasted that by doing chin-ups you're an asshole just agree go right right and then lift afterwards we have for sure man I mean this is yeah you've got a harvest when yeah when it's when the when the when the wheat is growing you've got to harvest you can't just but it's easy to trick yourself into thinking oh no I've got to stick to my fucking work out or whatever the thing

it's not just working out it's like whatever I think it's important to prioritize those moments I mean especially if you're going with your like with what a lot of people say which is this the antenna idea you're a receiver your blood is signals you're like seti but not for aliens for ideas and these are search for extraterrestrial ideas that's what you are you're a satellite for that and if you start getting I mean imagine seti imagine someone

has said he doing chin-ups and suddenly they get like a some signal from afar star system and he's like I'm going to finish my workout before I check out whether or not we're getting contacted by aliens that's an asshole if you're because the real question is where do your ideas come from exactly and if you're picking up whatever these creatures are and you've been blessed enough to get them yeah you should write them down to write them down it's kind of like I mean not that I don't like you got to honor them on

right yeah act on them I mean that's why people that think of them use like the concept of the Muse that's one of the more it's a productive way to think of it like pressfield writes about it and press field in the war of Art and he's you know he's a very down-to-earth he's not a it's not a silly man is a very down-to-earth person but his perspective on the concept of the Muse it's is it's very beneficial if you follow it because his perspective is essentially that you pay off

honored to this thing you show up and you do the work like a professional and then it responds in turn it comes to you yeah and that these are what looks like the we think of an idea even though it's one of the most important factors in the entire construction of civilization but somehow or another we don't think of it as that we think of people being that and we are because but we're being used by ideas

I know that sounds crazy I really do I know it sounds dumb to but you are you're coming up with these thoughts and we're thinking of them is like random connections that you're making in your brain which might be it might be that but it also might be that ideas are like a life form from another dimension that's trying to manifest itself in our current realm and they do so through getting into people's heads and the more you call for them the more they are for you and the more you show up and you can call that the muse

you can call it whatever you want angels' Tesla believed Tesla believes some hit was getting signals from some other some other hand or some other planet or some other life forms he had some weird shit that he wrote that's hard to decipher about what he see if you can find that because that's a very interesting thing Jamie see if you've got what did Tesla like Tesla had a take on receiving information from other galaxies he had this take on where I some some of his inventions were coming from it's like why it's or

some of the Transmissions that he would receive I mean God damn it wouldn't have been amazing to talk to that guy yes imagine having Nikola Tesla on the podcast oh oh who knows man maybe you still can one day to bring them back yeah bring him back everybody you create an AI Tesla I think a lot of people have that feeling and some of them just don't come out of the closet so to speak with it because they're afraid they're going to get judged

sighs I think a lot of people feel like they have a direct contact with some kind of sentience that isn't embodied inside of them and it's giving them ideas and they're just terrified to put it out to the world because it sounds like you're fucking nuts his claims are receiving signals from outer space where proven right a century later woo during the summer of 1899 Tesla set up a field laboratory in Colorado Springs Colorado to pause to the possibilities of using high altitude stations to transmit information

nation and electric power over long distances 1 July this is not what not talking about this is about to signal is not like him getting I went too quickly on that okay where is the signals this is like like radio signals oh that he's getting radio signals from other planets after the ruling out I think this is about sending after ruling out solar and terrestrial causes he conclude the signals must be from another planet-- he had a seizure and had a vision which is what like that's a

yeah here it says 1 July day while tracking lightning storms oh so is his actually equipment its equipment picked up a series of beeps after ruling out solar and terrestrial causes include the signals must be from another planet-- the following Christmas in response to the American Red Cross has request for a prediction of the greatest scientific achievement of the coming Century Tesla wrote brethren we have a message from another world unknown and remote it real it reads one two three in 1996 scientists published published a study

replicating Tesla's experiment and showing that the signal was in fact caused by the moon low passing through Jupiter's magnetic field holy fuck he was picking up a moon passing through Jupiter's magnetic field yeah but he had woo ideas to me he was in love with a pigeon he's in love with a pigeon not just that though he like I think he did think he was in contact with like some kind of sentient intelligent for sure why not

not why wouldn't you think if you're that smart imagine how smart he was in comparison to like a regular dope a mess that you want to buy a paper you know those people from back then some fucking dude selling papers in the corner and then the greatest genius the world's ever known up to that point yeah wandering around trying to figure out how to send electricity through the sky maybe that's all intelligence is though man is like having the willingness to let yourself go crazy enough to believe you're not the creator of your ideas to believe that you're an antenna

that's what makes a person intelligent maybe that's all it takes that and discipline well yeah the discipline to learn all the things that you need to know to be able to study and actually Implement that technology it's like Tesla was bolt things he was a genius and he was probably some sort of a Visionary in that way like he had like Ilan has he had an extra large magnet for ideas yeah yeah dude I think anyone can do that strong is this we'd fucking strong man I'm so

so glad anytime you give me weed I'm always forget how strong it is and every time I'm like fuck man you got to be careful we go high grade up in this bitch son it's important to go high grade I think so yeah absolutely what do you think is what do you think is going to happen to us do you think we're going to get through this in relatively short order or do you think it's going to take five six months how anything is going to take goddamn these the lockdowns are crazy and hot you San Francisco the lockdown is

easy three weeks 24 hours to have the streets don't go to work yeah man I think we're probably going to like listen if you go if you want to hear my like just instinct which is definitely going to be wrong I think it's going to go it's going to get better much faster than we expect I don't know why I think that have no reason to think that if you go by what they're saying we're looking at like months and months and months I guess like if I have to choose between listening to my own stoned intuition regarding stuff which

it fits into my desires which is I want it to blow over because I don't want people to get sick I don't want to live in the apocalypse I have a son I don't want to run out of food I don't want things to go back to normal I want to go around people but if you look at like unless we're living unless it's some vast ridiculous conspiracy I think we're looking at least a couple of months man I mean this is an ongoing by not a conspiracy because I think that in because I

I have a son now and if I listen to my own instincts when it comes to ship for my kid I'm going to be afraid to vaccinate him I'm going to be afraid to do things that like millions and scientific papers have shown is safe that's good for his health because I'm like going to get superstitious so I leaned into science it saved my life you know science kept cancer for spreading through my body and killing me I'm going

to trust the scientists right now and self isolate and try as much as possible to not spread this shit and I think that that's even if it turns out to be a panic and hysteria whatever at least you were part of the people who weren't fucking going out and skiing yes during this fucking think so I think it's going to go on longer and I think while it goes on longer if you have the ability to limit human contact and to avoid the superstitious party or

the I've got to that's looking at this and thinking like come on really I don't know anyone who's sick I don't know I don't know it's also rejection from change a rejection of change that you don't have any control over the Nile and deny that it's happening because that's the easiest thing to do if you deny that it's happening you don't have to face the fear and if you don't face the fear well then you put yourself in danger but really probably I don't know how old you are out there but you really who you're putting in danger somebody's Granddad yes that's the main thing is

like when people with diseases people who thought it was sort of people that are compromised there's a lot of us that are not that strong we and you know maybe some people are recovering from something you know like talking to Jonathan Ward yesterday in his wife's recovering from cancer she's going through chemo so like they want to make sure she doesn't have to deal with any of this shit like not exposed to any of it those are the type of people we have to be really scared of people that are compromised right but this is you know this is a fucked-up moment for us

but a learning moment I really hope that this prepares us in case something really horrible comes down the pipe and I think I hope It prepares us for understanding that this is a possibility it lets us understand like hey we need to accept this this is this is how it goes and if there's some new shit that comes on let's act quicker and let's take care of this quicker and like if everybody just had a two-week off thing like you know and this was something that Dana White and Frank Fertitta we're talking about before anyone did

it Frank Fertitta told Dana White he's like why don't we just have everything shut down for two weeks just no one go to work no one do anything two weeks stop the planes and the way he explained it to me was like he said pull the Band-Aid off it and like that is actually probably a really good idea well guess what now that's being forced mandatory forced in certain cities where they've got bad outbreaks if they had just done that the moment it cut the moment of Cut Loose just no one goes anywhere for two weeks let's nip this fucking thing in the bud yeah if that

has really done their right it really I mean if you could really get that to be implemented in a scale 350 million people amazing but you could you definitely would have radically slow down the pace yeah ready we weren't ready well now we know yeah hope I hope I hope we learn and I hope it doesn't morph and I hope it doesn't get more deadly and I hope you know they can figure out a way to allocate funds to get more respirators and you know all that shit has to be done and you can make your own hand sanitizer yeah I heard that too because wash your hands with soap too

yeah you know so apparently kills it what do you think are like the three things you should have at your house that food you should have water or something that purifies water whether their water for water purification tablets they go by iodine tablets there's like that we think the city water is going to get turned on anything can happen anything can happen you might need to drink water that you don't want to drink right you know that's possible you might drink puddle water I mean it look the reality is if things go real bad

might have drink from a lake all right okay and that's what water is you know water we take water from various sources and they purify it and you know rainwater and all kinds of other shit that's what we're drinking on a daily basis were drinking this weird process water yeah the water you really supposed to be drinking and stuff that comes right out of the ground that's who you're supposed to be drinking but if you get stuff that's biologically infected you get stuff that you know animals have been in and animal waste feces and stuff or bacteria or diseases or anything you can

purify that you can you could take these water tablets you drop in there and it kills everything it torches the water so in cases of emergency like Backpackers they'll find out like an elk wallow and they can drink that water out of a fucking El cual oh really yeah there's a thing called the steripen is another thing that yeah is steripen actually uses Ultraviolet light like so you have a water bottle you fill it up with like elk piss and you like waves your thing because you trying to stay alive you're out there there's no water like if you're on like a high country

mule deer hunt and you can't find a water you got to take water wherever you can get it because you don't you're not bringing all your water up there if you're staying there for 12 days you're hoping you could find creaks you might not find a creek and if you do it might be fucked up and maybe a dead animal in it like shit like something might have gone there to die and polluted the water or beavers - shit in it you have to have something that kills all that stuff so that's something that people should have they should have I think you should have some sort of a first aid kit bandages things like that

dense antibiotics stuff like that you should probably have something like that in case something goes wrong and someone gets hurt and there's no hospital available or there's no doctor or you have to wait in the morning before you can take someone to a doctor whatever the fuck the problem is you should have that you should have batteries that you've charged right like cell phone get some backup batteries charge those bitches you know if you have a generator fantastic but some people can't afford one of the don't have the room for one they can have one it's not feasible if you live in an apartment only but

not charged batteries for phones is very important food and water food and water are number one right you want to have dried foods things like rice and pasta you can store a lot of it you could eat high in calories you can eat it you know you and it doesn't doesn't take up too much room there's you know can things you can keep forever that's what you want you want food you could have like that you could keep you alive you know well let me ask you this man because this is like something I've been talking to people and myself I've

appearance is a little bit I don't know if you have but what about those of us who are like kind of secretly freaking out right now not so secretly yeah how do we like to me that's like I think one of the big questions is you know I was talking to a friend of mine and he was like man I totally was losing my shit yesterday man and like I told him like dude maybe to everybody yeah but what like how the fuck are we going to deal is just such a weird form of anxiety I've never had this kind of

xiety before it's there's an invisible monster yeah invisible monster that wants to kill your grandma yeah you know yeah an invisible monster that kills upwards the high levels like somewhere around three percent of the people you know and and with old people it's even worse with people over over 80 I think it's you know it's really deadly it's fucking scary man and what's scary is this is only one of many that can be coming our way

right and that this happens every you know x amount of years or something last one was you know H1N1 and SARS and this and that and there's always a new one and just a fucking flew man I didn't you know I didn't until we were looking into this I didn't know how many people the flu killed yeah the flu can kill 90,000 people in America every year yeah look I didn't know that did you know that I knew that so when they say this is 10 times more deadly than the flu York holy fuck maybe 15 times more yeah holy fuck that's a million people that's

million plus yeah that's scary that's carrying that's carrying and then you know other really horrible diseases that have devastated populations those are possible to and new ones are possible Joe always asking how do we deal with a fucking anxiety now I'm feeling you got to look at it the got to look at it for what it is this is reality the way to deal with anxiety is to be prepared as best you can except where you are and what you are and who you are and just live it

reprioritize has our values you know that's that's what's going to be good out of this nothing nothing good ever comes from having it too easy right like the for us I think are as a culture have it too easy was probably a little bit toxic to us like always eating junk food we're always eating sugar that's all we're eating it's okay to eat cake every now and then you can't just live off cake was a culture there's a lot of what we're doing we're living off cake you know

if you're a scene that Werner Herzog documentary Happy People life in the taiga it's a great documentary about these really nomadic people that live in Siberia and they're super happy and they live in these log houses that they build themselves and show them building these houses they don't have enough mosquito repellent they have to make their own mosquito repellent with like tar and they grind it up and add stuff to it and rub it all over their face and everything and they're super happy they live up in Siberia dude it's so

fucking cold it's only so many summer for like three or four months it's only like nice out and then the rest is just bitter brutal cold where the winter freezes the river solid we can write a snowmobile over the river so they use the river like the highway and they all have dogs and they run around trapping and killing animals and living off the land and catching fish and living off the fish dude they're so happy what's fucked up is these people are encountering life-threatening adverse

Petit every day if you stay outside you will die you will die just from exposure to the cold it will kill you it's 50 below zero outside it will fucking kill you and because of that they're all like happy and smiling and laughing and the documentary just shows like it's weird we're not we're never happy like this in a collective group unless we're all living in this constant state of

lightness and consequences for inaction like there's no lazy people there man everybody does their part you have to and they're all working and laughing they're all making their own canoes out of boat out of boards that they're chopping out of logs there hollowing out these canoes and stretching them out it's amazing man they're just always working and they're always happy it's so weird that's it that to me I think a lot of people don't realize that you can work together

I gather with people not for money just to do some community and how fun that is when you find yourself even you know my wife and I fucking moving and like I'm packing boxes it's been like non-stop for the last like four days like and we've had these like you know it's there's something in it even though it's terrifying that really is joyful and there's is so like feels more alive than I've felt in a long time I

that's the thing we've got a tune into is that if nothing else were alive right now yeah that's beautiful and yeah maybe this just extent maybe we can become like those people up there I mean I think that's one of the anytime a fucked up thing happens to you personally

it's a chance to become a bitter piece of shit or a little more angry or a little more tired or a little more depressed or to become her hero anything whatever it may be any bit of phenomena that comes your way as a person you know anytime I fight like anytime something's really got to get done that I've been procrastinating or any time some shitty unexpected thing comes my way I have a moment to decide am I going to react to this like I always react to shitty

things right and like become negative or dark or get pissed or can I like react to it in a completely new way and I think every time you do a new way this is my little concept you pop into a different part of the Multiverse it's a little better than the one you are in before and it's like a trajectory you can go on when I was getting stoned at the gym at for him I was imagining on the treadmill that was running through the Multiverse towards a healthier version of me

that wasn't getting in shape I was actually being inhaled into a more in shape version of me that already existed that's the kind of shit I have to do to get myself to work out dude it's heavy yeah man it's a fun it's fun to do that you know every single decision is like a binary do you want to continue doing the shit you've been doing over and over again whatever it may be or do you want to try a mildly new way and every time you do that sure as shit it's not just you that starts

aging you'll notice like other stuff starts changing to around you you know things just tend to generally get better yeah

I think there's there's thoughts that I've had that a real similar to that where I've wondered like if if Multiverse is are real and they're supposed to be different versions of you infinite versions all over the universe why are we assuming that this is the same every day you wake up in the same version yeah why are we assuming that the thing about sleep is you just go away then you come back with a memory of what life was like before

you went away and you wouldn't notice if it just slid you one notch to the right or one not to the left into the Multiverse if there's an infinite number of Duncan's out there with ghillie suits and gas masks on yeah and you just slid over to the right by letting a little old lady in front of you and not even complaining when she was driving 30 miles an hour hey like it's all right she's a nice lady we just get around or nice and slow and safe yeah that's it wave to her hi and the more you do that the I yeah

the more you do that the more you start running and other people who are doing the same thing you start ending up in that part of the Multiverse where many other people are doing the same thing yes and eventually you know theoretically I think eventually through those series of decisions maybe that's where you can like that's where all of a sudden you start realizing like oh shit oh shit I'm going to Temple I'm not even in a in a reality that I thought I was in I was just like in a deep state of contemplative meditation yeah

and you know I don't know I mean there's all kinds of interesting experiments you can do if you ever heard the term pronoia pronoia it's the opposite of paranoia or you think the universe is conspiring to help you instead of her you let's brilliant yeah maybe that's what we'll call our group pronoia pronoia yeah yes yeah that's perfect yeah yeah we needed a name that it just came to us pronoia sounds like a dope band yeah can I go see pronoia at the Staples Center

it's fun did you do that if you really do imagine that every single thing that's happening in your life is a grand conspiracy to help you advance you to bring you or another way to put it do you ever was I love wasn't Christie radio this guy was talking about a thing called convection which is being inhaled into the Christ so who when you start like like a black hole well I think like the white hole I guess it would be a black hole gobbling up planets like yours

being white is drawn into this into the Super intelligence and you're becoming in like you're being sort of lifted up into it the thing that makes the fucking Big Green Egg work like the thing that sucks smoke up that's happening to you into the Divine intelligence and as it happens you imagine you're the one doing this stuff to get you closer to it but really it's just your mind playing tricks on you you have no choice you're going to be you're going to wake up you're going to gain realization

and and so as that's happening you kind of you know like you can quit something you can quit drinking you can quit smoking but you kind of long for it but then sometimes you notice you just stop doing shit that was bad for you because you found a better way to live and it naturally Falls away right that's convection you're being drawn into the Divine mind as that happens the shit that looks like austerity when you're like further away begins to actually just be a natural way that you act

just become naturally more graceful naturally less inclined to do shitty things naturally more tuned in with like the hundred fifty year old version of you lie you know that that you sort of naturally and that just happens on its own because you will being convicted into the Christ sucked into the Omega loin the Divine yeah

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we should probably leave on that

so we end up yeah that's perfect within right thanks man thank you let me come on your sales for what how the reward fuck did that happen what the fuck right this is a total time where episode you and I always have the strangest episodes man we really do that in coolers for it's almost 4:00 it's 346 normally I would have had to piss like three times you're evolving Duncan Trussell tell everybody when you show his out thank you Joe

April 20th on Netflix the midnight gospel you can follow the midnight gospel on Twitter and Instagram and thanks Pendleton for making the show with me thanks you all for watching and thank you let me plug it on your cell man looks awesome I can't wait to watch it looks it looks so Duncan Trussell thank you Joe it's very you all right we're going to keep on keeping on folks stay healthy out there much love bye how did Krishna

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