#1351 - Dan Aykroyd

Sep 12, 2019

Dan Aykroyd, CM OOnt is a Canadian-American actor, producer, comedian, musician and filmmaker who was an original member of the "Not Ready for Prime Time Players" on Saturday Night Live.

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The Joe Rogan Experience trained by day Joe Rogan podcast by night and we live with Dan Aykroyd cutting oranges and doing a podcast at the same time yes it's it's kind of like walking from the tightrope between two buildings chewing gum and looking up at the ceiling have you ever heard of the guy who he was a tightrope Walker at the turn of the century and he was very famous I forget as he was a french guy he walked over Niagara Falls several times I know he talking about yeah I like it was a French tightrope Walker and one of the things he did Joe was one morning he said I'm going to do this but I'm going to take my manager on my back I'm going to take a small stove and I'm going to cook him breakfast in the middle of the false right over the falls and this is recorded of him having I can imagine the manager you know the conversation there okay you're going to climb on my back we're going to the middle of Falls I want to make it breakfast I love you

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handling it but know what that really I have to do this so he took his manager on the back out to The Fault cooked them eggs right there and then walk to the other end of the falls with a stove as manager all on his back this like you know these are these are Feats that that we hear about did he cook in the middle he cooked in the middle of the falls he cook baby cook eggs and I think Flapjacks and all while handling his manager on his back and handling the stove and the whole thing yet is there he is there he is there there there's a manager look oh my God yeah not funny where's your Van de that was named yeah I want to see him cooking yeah they must have the photo they've got out of wheel barrel up there yeah yeah wheelbarrow he had the manager on his back there he is a manager on the back you see taking them across East yeah that's how you earn your keep as a manager I know and I don't know whether they're there he is looking table and chairs yeah so that's where kind of up to here today and I know I when I came in I saw the beautiful bow equipment and all your workout equipment I was going to bring my pinball gun so I could bounce them off your stomach but

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you know gun what is a pinball gun well I'm just making it up here I know you're got a hard stomach there and I could just see them bounce off but I and I said you know Joe do you have a knife for the oranges and I knew you'd have a really nice sharp hunting knife and he hauls us out and here it is so tuck a more custom knives it's beautiful beautiful where they're out of I don't know it was a gift from my friend Donny Vinson brought it in for me yeah thousand people died going over Niagara Falls many of them suicides and many of them you know just just that that went over in rafts and that kid Roger going over in a life jacket and kids in bed and people in barrels who are actually intending to go over the falls and wanted to float down that far one guy survived our guy in the lifejacket survived and a couple of them on the barrel survived but the the tribe of the Niagara Indians who lived at the by the indigenous natives who lived at the bottom of the falls were overweight and why were they overweight because they didn't run through the forest hunting they took all of the meat that came through the Niagara River and went over the

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Alton was - to the bottom of the falls the Bears the Wolves the Moose all of them who who drown in the falls all these was wildlife and they just harvested the meat off the rocks at the bottom of the Fall so they would just wait they would just wait exactly how yeah how many things get stuck I would seem like you'd be waiting a lot man he's 40 people I hear fall over so every year right now yeah wow well my God 40 but I love Upstate New York I love us I love Niagara Falls New York's beautiful

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architecture from the 30s and stuff yeah so now it's so neat up there yeah it's a gorgeous part of the country do you mind if I make a non out of vodka drink here for us yeah this is your vodka company and you base it I know you are a huge fan of extraterrestrials and one of the things I'm very excited to talk to you about is that but this is about your book for on the all that cool this is based on the crystal skulls right this is well yeah the package is Grace that is hooks packages based on the on the crystal heads because we wanted to sell the idea of Purity and you can see it's a nice smiling a little happy little skull was designed by John Alexander the Great Texas artist here's our this is our wheat version we have corn in here we have weed in here and there's no cleaner vodka I must say on the planet we go to Great Lengths to make this a clean product not only is the bottle beautiful but the unique fluid inside is what has got us to 70 countries over 50 million bottles sold we've won 12 gold medals we won the products photo in Moscow for excellent

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sort of 400 Beverages and what we do is we take peaches and cream corn from Chatham Ontario and we put it in the truck in the mash and we ship it 95% alcohol volume at that point and we take it over and we put it in the ferryboat and we'd bring it over at The Distillery in Newfoundland Canada the last one of the last state-owned Stills in the world and why are we there because the water from the original Wisconsin Glacier is under Newfoundland so water isn't vodkas old Russian word for water and greatly yeah and great vodkas have Sweetwater I'm just going to I want you to just take a sip and then I'm going to make an ice Crystal but just so here's our notes here sir just a sec yeah cheers yeah indeed hey to our daughters to everybody daughters sons and his sons daughters mothers

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it's very good sweetness sweet vanilla dry crisp with a kick of heat off the finish our notes from Anthony Dias blue we take that to The Distillery in Newfoundland we use the water there we do not add flavor packs flavor packs are added to lesser vodkas that's glycerides sugars terpenes and we put them they put them in these packages and they put them into the Vodka we eliminated all of that and we have no additives at all this is c 2 H 506 just absolute ethyl alcohol grain alcohol purified distilled in a carbon filtration system not the only one with the hose where they just blow it through know we distill and we filter we poured over a Herkimer Diamonds Diamond yep poured over diamond we do we pour it over the Herkimer semi-precious Stone on the Herkimer Prentiss semi-precious stone is a one of our last purification processes now if you asked a high school Professor what does pouring alcohol over diamonds due to the alcohol they probably say well nothing

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our stones after certain pours a certain number of pores they turn yellow and we have to bleach them clean them or replace them the Herkimer diamond is found in an anomalous area of Upstate New York also in Afghanistan and Oaxaca Mexico they're found they're little semi-precious double-ended crystals and people love the taste of the Vodka poured over the stones now is there a chemical reaction that causes the stones to turn yellow or is it you know again you know you'd have to sit with a chemistry professor professor and say why does the alcohol turn that the crystals yellow is it doing anything as a purifying and we've done flavor profiles where we pour it over the stones and give it to people and we don't pour it over the stones and give it to the people and they like it better Port over the stones now why I like the Herkimer diamond is of course because it's near Griffis Air Force Base Rome New York Toronto yeah I know and that was where a lot of scrambles went up in the 70s and 80s against whatever was coming and going and in the mine in the mountains there Pine Bluff you know our

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Bush New York 9415 Pine Bush yeah Pine Bush New York so I thought this is great Herkimer Diamonds from that area associated with ETS the Navajo the Aztec the Anasazi they said that these skulls came down to them from the Star children they were they were given to them as scrying devices to help the tribe move forward to give positive energy to the tribe and so I thought perfect tie-in we pour our vodka over Herkimer Diamonds were tied in a little to the Extra-Terrestrial Legend there with the skull and it kind of it's the neat kind of bow to our product but the most important thing is that the know the fluid in the bottle matches the beauty of the bottle and the bottle is to sell the idea of Purity and enlightened thinking enlightened drinking which was what these these skulls were made for gosh it's good even without the orange juice Dan Aykroyd you might be the greatest salesman that's ever lived no so another one folks I don't know if you could see this for people listening you definitely can't but if you're looking at it in on YouTube this is an absolutely gorgeous bottle with artwork all over it this

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really cool design is all his little skeletons and it's hard to tell because it's kind of abstract a lot of the stuff in it but well that's Jolly jaunt Alexander's work he does he loves skulls and skeletons and that kind of stuff and gorgeous and Day of the Dead stuff and and so you know he he painted that up he's my all he's one of my oldest friends and we met because I would work on a Saturday Night Live and my girlfriend there was Rosie Schuster one of the writers and you know we fell in love and we had a great time and wrote the show we wrote Fred Garvin male prostitute and a lot of other things and then I went away to do Blues Brothers and she said I'm breaking up with you and I said well for what Norfolk who well I met this artist John Alexander so she dumped me for him and now we're best friends and we Define go see again I know no she dumped me for and he went on to to get married and do other stuff but yeah that's how we met so it's kind of interesting friends creative friends so we are of the Vodka for the creative Spirit it comes

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two artists a writer him an artist graphic artist and designer and painter and sculptor so you know Millennials love us because there's a no BS story on our Purity we are we are we are a pure story where a story about fun and about enlightened drinking in moderation of course and we are a story about quality and so I think people are buying a we have a lot of female demographic there because of the cleanliness because we don't have the the additives in it and you know we just take the trouble to make this product in a special way and we doing this this is about 11 years we're in 70 countries and I'm doing really really well with it because people are getting the story that's not only the bottle it's what since what's in the bottle you got a BevMo Total Wines ABC liquor bars all over the world have it now and yeah they assign bomb they like the they like the no additive story and yeah it's you know it's a little

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more expensive in retail but it works out to about 37 cents a drink more if you have twenty five drinks in a bottle you buy that bottle it's you know it you're paying a little more for the quality and for the package but you gotta you don't have to get you don't have to pay too much more for for a drink it's like 37 cents more if the average drink in bars we say we sell it for like maybe seven bucks a shot or save nine bucks a shot Seven for took you know 24 14 and 3 for 21 well losing people in the weeds here this is a very delicious though I'm not a vodka guy I generally like whiskey because I like to know what's happening I think about vodkas it's so smooth and this is very delicious and smooth like before you know it you're fucked up well whiskey I Feel Like You Know It with every taste what you like oh we don't have an overabundance Casa Di it's sweet and it's got beautiful viscosity dough this is the thing to drink from the ketogenic diet you can you want a little Citrus in there try it sure it's your move yeah

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I like they like to get can you squeeze it in there very slowly and make it look like an egg yolk going in there and what I'm having a lot of fun with the business it's 11 years we're having fun we're fighting against the big guys you know we got to do stunts and do exciting things and top you know talk about it in ways that it hasn't been talked about before the we did change the industry we are the purest play out there in terms of vodka consumption I don't slag other brands they want to use the flavor packages they want to put glyceride in there which is of course a synthetic it's a lipid want to put it in there it's a cousin to antifreeze I got to say they want to present anything yeah glyceride glissade glad if you like all person your cousin's murder though does that matter well let me see Christ you know loved prisoners and Christ forgave so let's I want to talk to you sister I don't know yeah maybe she's a nice person you want to talk to you about the the story of The Crystal Skulls themselves because there's this strange sort of folklore attached to them and then there's a lot of people that believe

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that it's all horseshit and that these were created by modern people and buried underground yep in order to well my understanding of it is there you go yeah and indeed that's just us the Citrus model the crystal driver there were 13 heads and and it was reported that the Navajo the Anasazi the Mayans the Aztecs had each had one of the most famous one is the the mitchell-hedges skull which was found in the Yucatan by Anna Mitchell Hedges he reached into a cave she was with her grandfather and was run 1926 and she reached in and there was an oil cloth covered item in there and she pulled it out and opened it up and there was the two-piece detachable jaw mitchell-hedges skull beautiful sculpt the Hewlett-Packard engineer's did a test on it in the 60s they said it could not have been carved by a lapidary by my tools it had to have been polished over hundreds of years over over centuries to get to the shape that it was so they said it was a polished item let's see there's the mitchell-hedges skull

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Phyllis Newman skull name Max uses wasn't that later decided by some people call but this was not okay I'm gonna I'm gonna exactly get to that point because of course it's important it doesn't affect my business whether they're fake or not these were beautiful artifacts and we've recreated it beautifully but it's nice to know the true story and I have a kind of a thought on the theory either way so there's the Phyllis Newman skull named Max yes to put it in the closet because it talks to her there's one way we hit the brakes from just hit the brakes punch with you you're an excellent talker sir oh well you know I was inoculated with a gramophone needle at Birth I could talk about taxi dispatcher a new vow of silence I could talk an air raid siren to scrap but and you're obviously Canadian because he said slag yeah I seek data Canadian gal she loved the tall so that's another tangent Canadian gals yes an ATM guys so the Philip Newman Newman skull she got its name is Maxie has to put it in the closet because it talks to her she said so there's the mitchell-hedges yes she does Phyllis has that

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then there's the there's the mitchell-hedges skull that's in Indiana the woman of the man that took care of Anna at the end of her life eventually had it and got it it's at and Graft in Ontario for many years and I never saw it but people said when they walked into the room and she on covered it with the cloth she kept it in that there was an immediate feeling of well-being and healing coming over to look at the at the original mitchell-hedges skull there's one in Mexico City it's one of like one of our minis it's got a cross stuck right in the top of it which is you know that would shatter a crystal if you did that how that cross got there I don't know there are there's one at the Smithsonian in Washington to at the Smithsonian Washington DC and one at the Victoria and Albert Museum so that's that's supposed to be eight that we have in five that were missing the woman that Smithsonian who has the to their I think it's a there are cloudy orange one and a cloudy green one on their smaller she says they're all fakes that they were carved by a German lapidary and that 1800s and the he seated them around the world well

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a minute I think one was found in Tibet one was found in Ohio were hearing at The Serpent Mound - what does she think this one gentleman did he because he was an expert lapidary had the tools to do it and she figures her theory is that they're not artifacts Polished by tribal hands and passed down that they're all fakes but it's just wait a minute he would have had to have had an Airship to go and deposit these wherever they might be around the world and what is it means you can get the pictures of the skulls up the Smithsonian Crystal heads and the smallest Sicilians Crystal had you can get in Victoria Albert Crystal had do they all have the same similar type of markings there there's the there's there's yes yes they do they do they all have the same now you see some of them are more clearer see there's one of the the the the British Museum and there's some that are clear and a more beautiful and there's some that are rougher like that one there and the green and the orange one but

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says all fakes but if they're all fakes how did they get to these different places around the world and how were they found well here's you know thing but why fake the word fake is very strange because it's like they are certainly real carved crystal skulls were they from tribal ancestry that's claimed them there's the question will make the modern Western and how where they polished or they carved that's the thing aren't they beautiful oh God don't do the indigenous people say they said they found they the Navajo say they came from the Star children that they were brought down and deposited and given to them as crystal ball devices scrying devices to was that one down there Jamie keeps growing where you were there one allowed to fit one on the left right there that looks almost like a real skull always risky yeah now the green is beautiful so so I guess I don't know I'm not a scientist I'm not a professional historian I guess I have to trust the lady at the Smithsonian but then I questioned they were found at different times in history around the world how do you go and see how you deposit them there why does she believe that has she given a

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reason why she thinks that they're all hoaxes or she just she's done their analysis whatever they've done you know to through their skulls but again the Hewlett Packard Engineers took that mitchell-hedges skull and they said this cannot be have not had been polished it would have been cracked or destroyed it could not have been built by tools it would have been cracked or destroyed it it had to have been polished hmm yeah so but what about some sort of a very fast-moving drill with a diamond bid on it that can slowly grind down well that would be then that would be them to be marks that would be visible under under the scanner they put couldn't you polish those marks down I don't think that the intensity of this of the Hewlett-Packard scrutiny revealed that there were none of those marks and that's why they were able to make their clients here's the problem with this is like you want them to be real right don't you oh yeah me too much I do too I do too but I don't trust me no neither do I so that's why I went to openly when you're saying all these things I want to believe you I want I want them to be from the sky people I do too

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again you know you've got a professional in Washington at our national museum there who says no they're not yeah but what does she know well we could go might be one day we should get her on the first get her on the phone might be a party pooper well II's I think that she's probably as in love in love with the skulls even though they are you know not polished it in her mind I bet she loves them as much as we do but the thing is if you are a professional intellectual or someone as a curator of fine art work and ancient relics you kind of have to be one of those people that dismisses anything Preposterous because if not that's right like Neil Tyson don't you love him - I love him and I love Neil Diamond but he there's no way you can sit down and say Neil Barney and Betty Hill were abducted by a flying saucer 1957 he's not going to accept right because he can't accept that because everything in his training everything in his knowledge everything that he knows about physics and Science and propulsion in the universe and how to get from place to place defies the defies the legend or a drive

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I would say defies the theory that there are extraterrestrial Advanced ships out there he can't accept it it's just you know he would be unprofessional for him to say okay there's even a possibility that there were abductions but the Betty and Barney Hill story is very interesting but there's there's no real evidence other than their testimonies are correct well there was a stain on Betty's dress there's her excellent recall she was not he was unconscious stain on her dress is so interesting it was a fluid that they used in the testing that some kind of a fluid the county and testing that they did when they drew over from her and they drew sperm from him now so there's a book out called Contact by Stanton Friedman will read that yeah and Kathleen yep I'd love to know where the car is where the the Chevy there were driving a little whereas here I don't know I'd have to ask Kathleen where it is did they did it end up in a junkyard cuz they were marks on the back of the car as well there were trace evidence in the back of the car you know Ted Phillips is

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goes around the world collecting trace evidence and radioactive signatures from sightings and and landings on the back of the car that was a couple of marks but it was Betty's it's their credibility why would they want to bring this into their lives and she was conscious a semi-conscious through much of it and Barney was not conscious he was unconscious if you hear the tapes of been Simon's interviews with them under her nails has to streaming and the he was just so frightened yeah and that's and The Zeta reticuli map when the little the being Betty looked at the map and the being shorter a map as she was on her way out the door and she said may I take this in the being was going to give it to her but then another one zipped up and said no you can't have this particular lies exactly the same place where Bob Lazar says they found those with the spaceships that they have an area or s for well the little Greys Zeta reticuli Barney and Betty's abduction you had Marjorie fish and animals amateur astronomer she took the memory of Betty's

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Betty Drew up the star map and she did a three-dimensional scale model of that part of the universe and was able to identify Zeta reticuli 1 and 2 and accepted by astronomers so that map that Betty saw a board that ship had not been seen on on Earth before and Betty has how Vestry of astronomy no no studying it no none of it at all and and and you know interesting things like when they got back to the house there there there the house was open and the keys to the house were in on the table with leaves so that they might have dropped them at the site and the beings return them now you know who Ted about Hopkins was yes he said that since so he studied the Linda cortile case where the woman was floated out of her apartment building over the East River and orange or picked her up it's constantly water he was the God was an artist he was a graphic artist he was a designer a painter and a lovely man and he was one of the first people to start to deal with the trauma of abductees he they he got a reputation for being able to interview them

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hypnotize them interview them and get their stories and empathize and sympathize with them and he said that in some cases that he studied the beings would grab a man from somewhere in America and grab a woman and out of their cars out of their clothes put them up test them draw overdraw sperm fluids whatever they were doing and then the woman would wake up in the man's shoes or a different car or they almost as if the beings were finished with them I don't care where they go now yeah I put them put them back you know that kind of thing he said that was the oddest phenomena like releasing a trout yeah that's right you only think that catch a trout you catch a big rainbow trout in your fly fishing and you got a barbless hook you know most people if you go to Montana go to the Gallatin River shout out to the gal beautiful gorgeous place people catch and release because they they appreciate that the Trotter there they'd rather go by halibut from a store and not eat the fish because they want this the salmon to be healthy they want the trout to be healthy so they catch him and then they release him but if you're a brown trout brown trout and bass

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but if your ass ain't your your rainbow trout and someone catches you and you know they take you on some 200 yard run down this River as they're trying to draw you in it's a big nine pound rainbow catch of a lifetime rifle time and some guy pulls it on it takes pictures of it like shows it and then releases it and this things like how the fuck did I get here what am I doing outside of my universe yeah am I doing in this other dimension of are where I can't breathe precisely yeah yeah and that's that's what I that's catch-and-release with people Travis Walton says you know you got to think of them as just people from over there he forgot the Fire in the Sky movie was based on yeah another interesting story here's what I want people that ability there and credibility with Barney and Betty I just don't think they're lying and I don't think the aerial school children are lying I don't want to think they're lying this is the problem that I have with it I want to believe them but at this is what I want people to consider because most people that are pragmatic reasonable people that don't want to be ridiculed they look at these stories then go out

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mom people are full of shit and I've been there too but I want I want people to imagine that if aliens did AK occasionally visit Earth

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what how often do you think this would take place and how it would be very infrequently and if it was if it was happening these would be completely unique unusual occurrences out of nowhere where someone would come down they would do something and they would be leaving the person with this thought in this memory and this inability to describe it with normal words if you were taken aboard a spaceship and you were some reptilian beings that were three feet tall were running experiments on you and you were paralyzed then they released you back on Earth how what words do you have available to you to describe this experience in a way they'll give you tell me hey Joe I went whitewater rafting with my kids it was a great time it was so fun we got to see Eagles and it was it was gorgeous then we had lunch at this beautiful little cafe what a great day I can Envision this experience I can see it but if you tell me hey man we went camping and I woke up

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some alien at a finger in my Allagash the Allagash incident they went camping and they were they just quite a few those right there's hundreds of thousands and here this is I bought you a book this is Bruce Maccabees book of it's all the headlines from 1952 432 reports given and I'll address your specific question about people how they relate their experiences and and how genuine they feel in a second here 432 reports given the Air Force in 1952 on aerial sightings ships from other planet we've got memorization members memos from the government here former Army Pilots he's flying saucer by daylight whatever was cited here July 30 stories fighter pilots at Newcastle say alert for more saucer reports these are newspaper yeah that's yours well newspapers Never Lie well why don't you know that well they never they never make fake stories well never talk shit about the New York Times has pretty reliable Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean our reporters for the New York Times and they've been studying this phenomenon they've reported were very credibly on it I'll tell you how an abductees experiences

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dated I attended a lecture at the Fifth Avenue Medical Institute in Manhattan with my wife a few years ago that would be about 15 years ago and John Mack was the lecturer you know he wrote the book abduction he was the Harvard psychiatrist who wrote abduction we can get that up to abduction John Mack yes I've read that as well yeah and that's all freaked a friend of mine out she was a very pragmatic non UFO believing person and she we were working together on Newsradio my friend Maura Tierney and she came up to me and she goes like this book is freaking me the fuck out and he wrote a second book as well didn't he died in a car accident John Mack believe he died in a car accident stepped off a curb

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in in a small town in England and he was struck by a car yeah and three other John Max died the Same Day in England so so you Pete think people will whack and John Max does he want too much I don't know say again I wish I was at this lecture and there were 300 abductees there that some of you we'd interviewed with some some he had not but who were there for interested to find out about more about their experience and one guy got up and said he had one arm and I don't know whether that was related I don't think was related to the experience but he said I'm a Wall Street broker I'm quite well off I have a sailboat I was in Long Island Sound a few years ago and a blue light hit me and I had missing time of about five or six hours but in it I have filter filtrated memories of beings addressing me and telling me that I was powerful and influential and I could help the planet survive and they put me back in my ship and I woke up and and and

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and he said I'm waiting for them to come back I want them to come back and I asked the room I got up and I said of all of you who've been taken how many of you would want to repeat the experience or have it happen again and about half of them said no no way they wanted to have it I have it happen again and a half said yeah we'd like to top half yeah yeah yeah yeah now I love so Bruce scientist and I'm going to give it to you and it's just got great it's got great headlines from the you know from the 50s which was a massive time for saucers you know that famous photo of the saucers over the capitol the glowing lights and yeah see if you can find that photo Jon's question July 1952 Washington thanks this was initiated by the detonation of the atomic bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki where they decided okay these fucking monkeys are doing some stupid shit we need to go down there and see what's up and see if there's imminent danger to the cosmos let's find out what kind of capabilities they have because if you listen to Lazar or if you believe the work of zecharia

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chin or any of the people that believe that human beings were engineered that there's the the the reason why this is giant leap between us and the rest of the primates on the planet is because something came down and manipulated our genetics well the movie Mission to Mars with Tim Robbins you know basically it says that you know basically it's shows the face on Mars and that that is one of NASA employees favorite movies yeah there they are yeah 1952 UFO incident thank you very much photo that is a great example come on let's go here and that's crazy yeah that in an airplane that ain't a helicopter know some crazy photograph and it's from 1952 I mean the the special effects back then were incredibly crude no no this was something that was reported thousands of people they just they they scramble Jets from from Andrews for it and as well as the Phoenix Lights those doing slice is fascinating because you know the Fife symington the governor said I he saw them he made fun of it with an alien yeah but he taught me about that afterwards yeah it was

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put under pressure to do so yeah it's in a movie called what is it there's there's a documentary on Netflix it's available that he's in that he talks about the pressure that they put on him to make light of that incident and he talks about his own personal experiences with seeing something some sort of triangle shaped craft that was enormous the size of several football fields it was flying overhead that was completely silent and how it freaked him out thanks triangle the triangle and out Delta crafts are very very interesting but yeah the Tinley Park incidents of the of the 80s and with Sam Moran toe is the investigator there from you van these things would park over the family Barbecue for about half an hour and you know families and suburbs were looking up them the sky being blotted out by these things parking above them so yeah I think it comes down to they I don't think these beings I've well Lord Hill Norton said there were 23 different species visiting the planet in 23 different types of ships I don't think they want a formal relationship with people on Earth they want an informal Secret

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Nation ship I think they probably have one with elements of the black elements of the Air Force and the government you know David Sarita is I've heard is David Serena you should have him on he's very knowledgeable about this he's history is that the Roswell event may have been precipitated by the Trinity explosion at because it was such an interdimensional disturbance of the atoms being split and that explosion there was there was that that saucer there that went down in 47 may have may have been influenced somehow negatively by that explosion now Stanton Friedman doesn't didn't buy that I love Stanton he just passed away there he was the expert on Roswell yeah I'm upset that I never got to meet him before he died he was so credible and she's still guy who believe in UFOs but believed most people were not we're lying about them really really well he believed that there was a lot of horse shit going on including well those are you thought baubles are was full of shit he died again why would why would Bob go out there and do that and and compromises life let me tell you something after talking to him for three hours and then grabbed anyway

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the night before my I don't have I don't I used to believe I had the best bullshit meter in the world but as I've gotten older I've gotten more honest and I don't I didn't see anything he's he's incredibly smart guy and he's not a guy who's like seeking out attention and he's not profiting from this and in fact just his demeanor and everything she's like an accountant he's a legitimate scientist yeah I mean I've talked to him one of the things that I engaged in with we had dinner we talked about science just science in general and we talked about all sorts of different things and and he's a scientist he's legit scientist I've talked to a lot of them yeah I know what kind of person he is he's and they just hassle them again there they rated as his nuclear I think he has Element 115 that's what they think wouldn't we all love to have that that's what they think that's some artists created that thing up there was an element 115 and yeah Element 115 indeed well let's just get a little sliver of that did ya big that's would be pretty exciting they

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he talked openly about it in the 90s that he had managed to weasel some away from the area as for and they think that he still has it yeah there was some experiments that he had done that George Knapp it actually filmed that it showed some really bizarre distortions using this stuff and then it was able to it was there was I got to remember exactly what it did that they show but they did some experiences like steam or smoke or something like that where they showed Element 115 emitting some sort of vapor well no it was emitting some sort of a field where you literally couldn't physically touch this stuff ya know what it'd be nice to find that that's for sure but I believe I believe Bob I do and I believe Barney and Betty and I believe Travis I want to believe all of them I believe the I believe the Allagash guys why would why would they do this we're full of shit well love to lie they love attention they love crazy stories people love telling you their psychic people love believe in astrology people but people believe in Bigfoot I

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there's a lot of people out there that want fantastic things to be real including me it's exciting it's way more exciting than really than not being it is entertaining that's why I love the whole subject for my problem with the thing is that these people were severely damaged like Barney Hill was damaged the the Allagash boys were damaged Travis Walton were dumped psychologically damaged by these by these experiences allegedly we don't know mean they might have damaged already this might have been except that yeah this is might have been somebody read contact and you've seen Betty interviewed doesn't she come off as she died someone who's extremely credible and does she does so does Barney the Betty and Barney Hill it so they're an interesting couple because they were an interracial couple what year was this this happened you sobbing so they were dealing with all sorts of pressure this is during the Civil Rights Movement and they were you know some you know they were pretty it was it was not the what you would expect for people that were calling out and trying to get attention and the way you know the way they describe this

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have resonated with people well he was having nightmares and rashes and they had to come to some medical conclusion about it and they consulted a friend consistent the story was extremely intense it was and they consulted a friend at the Air Force you know who they knew and they came to Bensimon I'm not know it's a fascinating story there's just you know it's just it's just in a way as again it's very very very entertaining and how did you get involved in this well my mother worked for the ministry of Munitions and Supply in World War II for the minister and she was suborn to work with the aircraft production for the hurricane she was in charge of working with getting the hurricane fuselage has built in Canada for that you for the hurricane fighter plane so she was you know in the world of Aviation and in 1947 she was walking down Spark Street and Ottawa and she looked up in the sky and she was sort of said something told me to look up and she said

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what looked like a Christmas tree ornament just winking above the street about 4 500 feet winking on and off red green white red green light and she thought that's odd you know and then she looked at it and she did it just zipped off in the sky and disappeared and around the house after that point we always had articles there's an article there's a cover of Life magazine with Marilyn Monroe talked about flying saucers of the cover of look Magazine with Elizabeth Taylor it catalogs the Barney and Betty Hill incident so whenever one of those articles come up she always had that at home for me to read so hot kind of I was interested it from from then and I've had for sightings myself quite Vivid the first one was in Martha's Vineyard I was four in the morning I got up to take a leak on the balcony there and I looked up in the sky and about a hundred thousand feet up I saw two glowing disks lying an Echelon formation you saw this I saw this how old were you I was in my 30s yeah and so I look up and I see these things and they're moving man they're going from

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Horizon to Horizon 20,000 miles an hour a night I've been in an F5 I've had it in my hands I've been in a B25 I know helicopters I know Aviation I know meteoric bolides I know what's not a meteor and what is I know what's the helicopter and what is I know what's the moon and Venus to glowing glowing round objects a hundred thousand feet maybe 20,000 miles an hour they do in because they went across the sky like just in a zigzag formation so if I screamed in my wife my friends they got out the three of us saw it and I said you know and they all knew it was something unusual that was my first sighting okay now who knows okay meteoric bull ride they'll many people that can dispute that that wasn't real but I know what I saw I know what my friend saw and all my wife saw those things were moving there were glowing fast there were flying in formation and they were doing enough speed to get from basically the right side of my eyes to the left side of my eyes really fast the second one was

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I was I was in so that's so that's for I count those two as two and then the the the second one that I saw so the one to the third one I saw I was I was in Montreal Canada and I was in the 23rd floor of the Queen Elizabeth hotel and this would have been when we were doing Patron in Canada the Patron tequila promotion and that was it but I've been in the early 2000s and and I looked up and Beyond the window there and I saw this it just looks like an air mattress turned over on its you know with with it with the bubbles on the bottom was huge it was a hundred fifty feet long 50 feet wide gray it was a gray rainy day in Montreal broad daylight and here was this thing at the 23rd story of the hotel and I'm looking at it and it moves slowly down st. Catherine Street and I'm thinking where are the wires where the wires where it's got to be a balloon it's got to be what there's no Thanksgiving Day Parade here what what

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what is that and my friends are with me what is that and it come along and just parked outside the window we looked at it big great thing with these bulbs underneath and then it slowly turned and we saw the full length of it and then it went around the corner we ran out in the hall and we just watched a drift kind of sideways off over the st. Lawrence River and disappear wha well you know the people take pictures of this no we didn't get any pictures and I don't know who else saw yours is in the 2000 like to see five or six I'm like that and then the other people report it know I don't know I should I should have checked and seen in Montreal with the local mufon I think they have a representative up there but it was Vivid we all saw it and then they the fourth one that I saw I was on my motorcycle Leavin town to go at Kingston Ontario where I lived there and I was driving out of the farm gate and and I saw there's a power line that runs on the opposite Farm there across the road and I saw this winking red light just moving slowly

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on the top of the power pylons and I thought well you know helicopters they do that kind of work where they where they string power lines but they don't really do it at night I thought that's got to be a chopper a hydro Chopper like a hydro company Chopper watching the power lines checking for faults or I don't know I was and it goes along like this and I'm watching it and I stopped the bike you know and I'm like and then it stops and makes a right angle turn and comes right at me and so I turn on I have a police motorcycle so I turn on my wigwags you know like that you have a police motorcycle cars idea police motorcycle police equipped well are you a cop Dan Aykroyd magic getting pulled over by a Blues Brother wouldn't that be good I've actually I've actually had the experience of actually pulling some people about any pull people over sure why'd you pull them over your Sheriff well I was a reserve deputy sheriff tan tan tan I reserve the Reserve I must say but I served under the first African-American sheriff in Hinds County Mississippi and its history anyway back to my citing the thing comes along

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I put on the the wigwags on the bike and it stops above me and it turns on a light and I'm going it looked like where's the rotor wop where's the where's the wash where's come on the helicopter 3,000 feet you can hear it this thing's like three four hundred feet above me I'm looking at the thing I'm thinking where's the wash where's the where's the it looks like it looks like a helicopter it's got to be helicopter do I see a canopy do I see Rings rotors nothing just just a mass of kind of metallic and lights and it just shines his light on me and I turned the lights on the bike on and then turn them off and then it wink the light off and it just drifted out over the field and just drift off like that hmm so so you've had three different and then one night well one night I was in bed I was in night in bed with my wife it was in the 1987 or so and I will I woke bolt upright at 3:00 in the morning I said I got to go outside I got to go outside they're calling me they're calling me they want me to see they want me to see and she says all go back to sleep so I went back to sleep next day all over the radio

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Upstate New York they talked about a big pink spiral in the sky that it appeared to Upstate Northern Northeastern Ontario and Upstate New York and they were saying oh it was a Chinese rocket what at a bottle rocket or the Chinese Center rocket this was the explanation that the media and the government was giving at the time so

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Thor those are my experiences right there and you know how you got her and then and then an interesting thing singing thing happened where I was doing a show called out there beyond belief and we were doing it over there for for Bonnie Hammer over there at at the Sci-Fi channel and it was an interview show where I talk to Doug Meldrum the Sasquatch expert and and all kinds of talk to Doug yeah I believe him I believe him he's passionate about it I don't see why he's also a scientist I talked to all those people but the the day that I had Steve sasquatches are real yes I do I believe I believe that there's got to be that's just you know Gabrielle Reece The Olympian sure they're on the podcast you have you should talk about her Sasquatch experience though now I need to talk yeah you really yeah so gigantic and beautiful I would imagine it's a Squatch wanted to breed with well that's why apparently it shook a camper that was she she was up in an Upstate woman super athlete she was attacked her camper was attacked by when she tells that story yeah

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where was I about the what we go back to the it's Gabrielle Reece a squatchy by how you interviewed all kinds of people on this show I have the Devon about my show I was exposed to be a legit watch was supposed to be a yeah but we're supposed to be a show us on Sci Fi Channel and interview show where I'd interviewed everybody you know all the people in the field of cryptozoology and that and and sci-fi and science fiction and theory and UFOs and I had Steven Greer and Steven Bassett on that same day I've had Steven Greer on the show too okay so I interview Stephen Bassett I'm about an interview Greer and I get a call at and about like noon at our noon break and they call and they say you shows cancelled we want you out of the studio by the end of the day and we're not going to are anything that you've done

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Stephen Bassett Steven Greer the UFO show it gets cancel that day now maybe Miss Hammer made a decision you know talk shows aren't really our thing or ackroyd's not really what we want on our Network or I don't know what she called by someone or why what why why that day when I was going to do this Vivid you know you Fo Sho that was going to go out on the on the air eventually why then did it get cancelled those ratings how are the real know we never got we never got to are I did 26 of them and never got to hear he never got to are also you just filmed him and never did you guys do any wacky ones where they got the film and like what these crazy fuckers doing was there any of that like if you were a non-believer non UFO enthusiasts your interview show I didn't show any footage I just I just interviews talk to people yeah so the day of my UFO show that I was going to do my big Steven Greer and Stephen batch oh we got canceled so you know there's that you think that they would can't listen sci-fi

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all about those shows I mean I watched an episode of sci-fi where there's a bunch of people that claim to be trapped in a cabin in Maine because werewolves were outside it's just like it's well into nouns they don't do talk shows I did a show on Syfy show called Joe Rogan questions everything well how long it lasts not very long but part of that was my idea I didn't know you worked for money keep doing work for Bonnie Hammer know it was different people better that she's one of the smartest Executives in the industry and I don't doubt that she'll be running NBC someday or all of universal but I know and I just I just I would always like to know what happened it's someone call you Bunyan and say you know don't bring this up now I don't know one's gonna call people about UFOs I mean if they're going to make phone calls they're gonna you know take out Dom lemon or something because he talked shit about Trump and then I'm gonna you know I'm I guess so yeah maybe she just doesn't make sense so I'd always like to know what have UFOs are openly discredited by normal people people not entirely though half the world it believes if you look at the work of Ralph Blumenthal and Leslie Kean New York Times

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is there credibly reporting these this stuff Barney and Betty Hill of the State of New Hampshire has certified their site there there has certified their experience with a plaque you can go to the place where they were allegedly abducted in the state of New Hampshire has UFO in Sulfur know that that doesn't mean anything doesn't mean it happen because it means it's a State Certified or state-recognized paranormal experience here you can get anything certified in New Hampshire that's a goofy Place well I don't add about out to New Hampshire Adam Sandler comes from there that's one of my he's a he's a definitely a National Treasure there it is there it is anybody Hill incident isn't that great wow like a State Certified and also another State Certified paranormal 161 out runs right around the time that was a couple months before Kennedy was shot right wasn't shot in November 63 for him right yeah was it 63 yeah 60,000 that wasn't 47 yeah but there you go there you know sure look at it and Barney Hill experienced at close encounter with an eye on Dad

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and then in Marfa Texas you heard of the Marfa lights no I have not held down the Marfa lights are these anomalous and that's a state kind of recognize paranormal mystery to mysterious Marfa lights they have a kind of a picnic area we can watch them at night no one knows what they are they appear every night and they bounce around on the horizon they go up and down and back and forth people say all their headlights from different cars on the highway but the Air Force the state police they've all tried to figure out what they are and they just don't know what the Marfa lights are and they're recognized by the state of Texas as a paranormal event you're skeptical Q yes I do yeah but lightning is a real thing that's created by pressure inside the tectonic plates but every night consistently going down North and symmetrical pattern but I mean every night can we go there tonight yeah film it yes we could hundred percent absolutely really yep Marfa lights how many videos of the Marfa lights are available Marfa at Marvel Donovan let me see so they are let's see what we got here

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wow what do we got here yeah no one knows that's rednecks the driving the trucks over the hill well that's what they say yes of course in the big leagues they looked in there they've done surveys they've done geodetic survey is what is it is it gasps is it what what do they think it is what's the official explanation of the no one knows mystery lights the state of Texas has a little plaque the Marfa mystery lights enjoy them because they're they're they're going to be there tonight those 6 p.m. to 2:00 in the morning really every night every day and we get a place out there every night smoke weed and stare at the sky do you is there any UFO sightings that you think are nonsense is there any like mainstream ones that you listen to and you like I'm not buying that one well all the people that I've talked to that have had sightings and have that experience to seemed very genuine I don't know that anyone has been I don't know anyone that's been blown out publicly that I would doubt I mean can you think of one I don't know I'll I believe that the Allagash boys Calvin Parker down there in Mississippi the Pascagoula

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incident I mean again their their lives were severely negatively affected by these experiences but they didn't know whether or not that what's going to be the case when they reported on it a lot of people do silly things that negatively affect their life yeah and that's they don't they're not aware they don't they're not future tellers that there's a there's a guy there he was he says that the alien appeared at his back screen porch door he's in Colorado Colorado do you know that gentleman he says that your balls deep in this man you know all these stores this guy I don't really I don't know if I believe him because there's no yeah Colorado alien at the back door I don't seem right I just looked I don't know if I believe him or not it just like like he was fabricating there like I'm sure there's a lot of people fabricating things and I'm also sure there's a lot of people that believe they're telling a true story but in fact or schizophrenic or they have some issues or there's I think there's a lot of that going on Billy Mayer was doubted for sure I know what do you think about well him the pictures are so vivid and the Pleiades play the

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story so vivid I don't I don't I mean a book Billy Mayer you can put in the early Meyer UFO photos of Whiskey from what he sweats he was a Swiss yeah we have his book that was that I know somebody came to The Comedy Store and way me at this big book on that guy pictures of that yeah these are not it's not they'd lie well that's a quick look at the one by the pine tree they're going they're going oh he attached the saucer to the Pint he threw it in the air and took a picture of it okay well that's one Theory but wasn't it you know didn't they do that just to show the scale of their ship and some of those photos are pretty pretty convincing I don't know and okay if you want to take out who keeps taking awesome pictures UFOs I'm not buying it well again you know if there was anyone that I had doubt because thrown so much doubt has been thrown his way that's pretty pretty I mean how do you well I suppose with Photoshop but Bruce Maccabee I believe is Bruce Maccabees analyzed these well he wrote that book he says the real right but a guy who's writing a book

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on your foes analyzing UF know what you're saying they're real there's no but Bahamas for Bruce Maccabee is a doctor and he Society he's a he worked for the Naval Air I want to talk to his ex-girlfriend's see if he's full of shit you know what I'm saying like like you could say all these positive things about people's he worked for the Navy he was at one he's the expert well he's the expert he said yes the Gucci version yeah yeah look at those balls what's up bling-bling those are the Pinball's I would if you had an Instagram account and you an alien that's the one you but I think he did a photo he did a photo analysis and he said that that Bruce believes the real and I believe Bruce if you if you read this book here he's he's the real thing like what Stanton was the real thing Bruce Maccabee he's the real thing because they're they're scientists who are doing you know very very thorough and close inquiry on the matter so if you ask me who I doubt maybe I don't know Billy Mayer I don't know I don't know yeah he took too many yeah if you had like three like a glad it's like yeah it's chocolate yeah come on bro that's all you're doing you're out there and they just come to you

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why don't you set up a camera crew 24/7 for a couple weeks and let's Steven Greer uses lasers he points them up to the sky and kind of attract something yeah you know yeah he also daughters have said that if you know they've sat out and watch these things come and go in North Carolina at their house and but people saying that something happened and so I would always have those but his thing is about UFOs he's made documentaries about UFOs his business is he knows a lot about UFOs what do you want to Greer I'm not buying what you want is you want the Sam you want the you want the herb Shermer story what's the herb Shermer story Nebraska highway patrolman on patrol sees a flash of light in the Ashland oil refinery near my brat Nebraska flash of lightning oil refinery in the broad daylight not a good thing could be a fire goes up not into UFOs highway patrolman goes up he was taken into a ship and deposited he's one of the famous ones so know

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agenda there are didn't want to tell a story and got in trouble for and here's the thing herb Schirmer herb sure Sage III rmer no disrespect to her but some cops are crooked they steal people's money some cops rape people some cops pull people over for nothing some people shoot people for non-existing crimes there's a lot of there's a lot of people that just happened to be police officers that are also full of shit that's that a lot of people are full of shit that's true but I you know again here he is a guy why would he say that's not even at the other one is his evidence well his evidence is anecdotal like a lot of it but that's a problem right well the Phoenix the Phoenix Lights there's video of that the different one that's a Domani Zamora Za Za Mo re he was a New Mexico highway patrolman he said a saucer landed he saw it land and Dan Aykroyd everybody wants to be special and one of the best ways to be special is for you to have a special moment with some special creatures from a special place and no one else can recognize whether or not you're telling the truth or not telling the truth right

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about this and everybody wants to listen and they listen to you they're totally fixated on everything you like to see how about how about how about provides Jafari pervez Jafari well like the name okay he's the best if he was in a rhenium Air Force pilot who still lives in Iran he's does many lectures and he did the famous it's the Iranian Tehran UFO sighting he chased a UFO in his jet and the thing turned off all the electronics in the Jet and he said this thing was moving how about General de Brewer well how about David favor I don't know him he's he's the guy that there were talking about on The Bob Lazar documentary he's he experienced something that flew exactly like the Lazar ones I'm going to talk to him soon mm-hmm and he incredibly credible and you know military accolades he's a very well-respected guy and he's never had any other Fantastical sort of stories that he's told I can't wait to talk to him about the yeah I promise you

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always a good guest to should get him and then there's the guy who flew the Alaskan you know the Japan Airlines flight with all the wine on it and the UFOs above Alaska it circled them several times that's a famous story I get a bottle that one yeah that was yeah so Alaska Airlines citing that's another one so no but I like I like your view you are not going to sit here and say oh it's all true I'm accepting it all it's too easy and you only give you all I give you here today from my experience is the ones that I believe mmm and that's Betty and Barney Hill Travis Walton anybody gosh boys yeah Betty and Barney Hill a really interesting one because also there was in the precedent Betty and Barney Hill in 1961 there wasn't a bunch of people that were talking about these things happening to them and since then they've been very many that were really similar very similar and it makes you wonder because here's but this is what I want to say to people that are skeptical and of course I'm scared I'm skeptical that's why I'm knocking holes in these things yeah but if that if it did happen and you

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left alone to try to explain to people something that is incredibly unique very few people ever experienced it it would be so hard to get people to believe you well that's why he favors professional you go to a professional but there's no such thing you know well just someone who can professional means you make money doing it means you studied it and you make money doing it there's not a single fucking human being on this planet that's a professional Explorer of other worlds right there's not a single person on this planet that is a professional expert on alien civilization and could tell you everything they need to know I know more about French about the language the French language than anyone that's ever lived knows about alien civilizations and I don't know shit about French do you understand yeah I know it's a real place I know France is a real place in French is a real language and I could say Paulie vous francais that's more than anybody could explain about any any civilization on some other planet got to take the credentials of the people who report these things and I referred to

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the king's brother terrestrial they are that's right no you know UFOs generals pilots and on UFOs go on the record that's Leslie Keynes book and there's some pretty pretty compelling you know stories remember Arsenio Hall when he had that thing you would do things that make you go hmm hundreds and states he flying saucers Indianapolis news you know anyway this is a neat book by Bruce I believe Bruce was a real thing I believe Stanton's the real thing I listened J Allen hynek is one of the more interesting characters to me because a lot of Project Blue Book yeah he ran Project Blue Book and his directive was to debunk these stories whether or not they were credible he was his directive was to say that's a weather balloon that's a that's a star this is swamp gas that was his directive would then when he left Project Blue Book he said listen these things are real yes 20% of sightings are explained yes said these things are real and when you talk to a man like that

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who's living was in debunking these things and then after it was all over he was compelled to communicate with the American public that there was a real situation going yeah going on there is and he's really interesting to man can Arnold his sighting is pretty compelling door so I think I don't think they want to form a relationship with us I think they're coming and going like taxis and they have been since the beginning of the existence of Life on this planet of the existence of this planet do you think they engineered human beings well that mission to Mars movie is one of NASA employees favorite movies I think maybe they must in the Mars movie something that's it my mission to Mars Tim Robbins really good pictures a doc it's not to feature the feature tree yeah Mission to Mars yeah what is it about it's about the mission to Mars and them discovering there was a civilization there on that perhaps we were helped along in our development what year was this around I'm not sure Mission thousand really really good I remember like a horror movie here's the here's the yeah

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that moving your Marilyn Monroe Marilyn Monroe there's a case for interplanetary saucers that was in Life Magazine okay I remember this movie now was that a good movie it was really good in the end Tim Robbins kind of there's been a few astronauts that got really deep into UFOs right Mitchell after mission was one of them will have an interesting story for you and this is of course totally anecdotal and he's part of the it's part of the lore and

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like we have you want another drink hell yeah okay so wondering Neil Armstrong and Buzz Aldrin I do believe that we actually went to the moon II don't believe that I don't believe that that's a fake experience I you know I misled people say oh well it was black and the Dustin's you know the just flew up and it wouldn't it wouldn't die Crystal had vodka cleanest vodka in the planetary anyway so I believe that when and and you know I've I Buzz Aldrin a good friend of mine love as a good friend of everybody's but I love buzz and so they go to the moon and I love that story about there was only 17 seconds of fuel left when they when they landed and then that he had to kind of hop over some rocks to get there you know so there's a story that Neil Armstrong was at a conference in in in France in a hotel room and one and there was a woman there who had been previously head of MI6 and she was a part of this car

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he'll party and she overheard a conversation between Neil Armstrong and another gentleman was in the intelligence service and the guy was asking him about the moon landing and Neil said you know there was a frequency that we switched to talk about other things that were happening at that time and then guys what do you mean he said when we landed there on the rim of the crater near by he said there were several ships and they were large and menacing what's a menacing ship shaped like one of your bottles of skulls well know that though this is a happy I don't know the Coneheads Starship I'm really gonna have to start yeah I do remember that so I mean that's a total ending I mean but I think you know if that if you need alarm if that's true you know well you know he only said that one time in French maybe they we tell the woman again woman you want to sew up almost will have a straight right the woman the woman was with MI6 purportedly that's kind of a neat story

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it's a neat story Edgar Mitchell said that he saw something out there to write your Mitchell did and he's a he's passed condom he's passed away since right yeah and you guys know there were he was a firm believer and then the STS 1979 SDS space shuttle footage you've seen that STS 1979 tether satellite tether break oh I have seen yeah the tether broke off it was a mile long and they were supposed to spin off a satellite was a mile long and they and that broke so the tether is a mile long but in the back of the tether you see these oh Lifesaver shaped Rings going back and forth but David Sirota says that's a species that was trying to help the planet and they were bringing giant water bags and giant giant water vessels to heal our ozone layer it was the STS 1979 space shuttle together on our heels ozone layers A lot of these should what water yeah water water took two big big massive massive

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of water these were supposed to be these old shaped Lifesaver shaped UFO figures and then what he did was he compared them against the length of the tether which was a mile long and said these things would have had to have been you know quite large now that's David Sarita you should have him on he's is a brilliant ufologist and theorist hmm and STS space shuttle 1979 and then Lonnie Zamora you should also check and Herb Shermer SCH ii o IR M AR and Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal you know this is just a piece of paper but this is a video for their yo evidence Rex's in plasmas in the thermosphere there we go there are ten separate National space shuttle missions over 200 miles above the Earth within the the thermosphere the structures appear to be self-illuminated may be several meters or kilometers in size and have four distinct morphologies what is this What's the title of this who's this from Emeritus brain research laboratory Northern California cosmology dot-coms pretty neat

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just stumbled across it maybe Ron Joseph PhD Center for cosmology Silicon Valley California huh the TV pundit there's but there is video video the tether the video is weird and someone described it as ice crystals and they said the perspective is what's screwing everybody up as of the ice crystals are between us and the cable but it makes it look like they're enormous but they're actually quite small I think I think at this point we can accept that these ships are real that they're Advanced that we yes we can't I think we can accept that there's just so many so much footage so many reports Ted Phillips has trace evidence so many Landing sites so many I think we'd accept the real I think we accept these beings are real there are many different species some are benevolent to a summer malevolent

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we have to get past is okay now that we know that how will that help human transformation now John Mack at the session I was at at this Fifth Avenue Medical Institute a woman got up and she said I was a socialite in Massachusetts I all I cared about was money and spending money and where it could go and spend money and and buying things and one afternoon I was in my garden and an orange orb came into the garden and I'm figure got out and lectured me if you have so much power just like the guy in the sailboat you can make this planet a better place year obligation now is to use your power and your wealth to make this planet a better cake place and she is now one of the leading environmentalists on the planet she devotes her money and time to this what's her name I don't know her and I don't remember her name but Jenn Harris and I charge an har Zion I do know his name he's head of new fun and why is Jan harz an and IBM X IBM Mainframe engineer head of new font because when he was a boy in Marin County California he and his brother were left for the weekend

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is ten and twelve-year-old brought a 12 year old brother and he was 10 an orange orb dropped into his backyard and two beings got out and played with them for several hours and then he came back the next day and John said I have to go into science I got to know what that was I wasn't a helicopter that wasn't if you had Jan on if you have no yeah have Jan on and you should have you should have Jan on you should have Beverly trout on she's the she's the midwestern on the directors for Mid the Midwest Sam Moran toe the expert on the Tinley Park cases which that is so great I want your brother Dan Aykroyd has no notes in front of him these notes are these words just flying out of his head these names are deeply ingrained as memory Tinley Park I mean Delta's parking above your family Barbecue you know so it's entertaining we got to get past that they exist and get to the point oh how do we benefit our planet how do we make this planet better how do we take These Warnings The Day the Earth Stood Still one of the greatest UFO movies ever oh yeah he comes down and he says you know these nuclear toys you're playing with we don't we don't like that you know so

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I think that there's some intervention to Barada nikto Klaatu Barada nikto Patricia Neal not sure what a great movie man that's that's an inaugural movie what year was that you're showing your children that may be no not yet you should show your shit that was in the 50s yeah that's a great one and because it really took the real science of what was going on and and it took all of the stories that were reported in Bruce's book here and kind of distill them into you know into a theory of what might be happening hmm how much your day do you spend thinking about this well I am an eternal researcher and I'm always looking for stories I love the new fun stuff that's coming out you know my family was into paranormal research that's why I wrote The Ghostbusters my dad was a researcher and my end his father that's why you wrote Ghostbuster yeah because because we have an Old Farm in Canada and my grandfather was a dentist in Kingston Ontario on the in the 20s and a man walked up to him he had been researching psychic research and the other world and mediumship for

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years and a guy walked up to him and said mr. or dr. Ackroyd I believe that I have a gift and his name was Walter A sure she was a look locomotive mechanic at the local engine works and he was our family medium for for at least 10 or 15 years and we would have they would have seances and then 20s and 30s and Sunday afternoon the big Dodges and Cadillacs would pull up in the women the matrons would get out in my great grandfather would have a 90-minute session with the medium and they would Channel entities from the other side if you heard of the fox sisters and the whole Lilydale thing the whole mediumship of the concept that you know we are the life Billy lives beyond what we have here you know who John Edwards is the the psychic on television yeah isn't it full of shit no I didn't get busted now he's well you know what happens yeah busted with an earpiece well he did John Edwards the psychic got busted he was he had some very well maybe you know sometimes what happens is they they you know they lose their powers and they and they aren't able to or they're full of shit the entire time they just get slimmer

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John Edwards though I watch the show I kind of had kind of believed him but I'm not sure if he was the one that got busted and one of those one of those psychics got busted you have so I'd like to see you across from Penn jillette yeah oh of course no he's talked to him well he's an expert debunker of yeah super skeptical I would love to I brought my lunch Chef I'd love to have Penn jillette tell me what he thinks of the fox sisters why why they went around the world with a spirit that performed with them riding what happened well he wrapped a spirit wrapped yeah what kind of wrap our AP not not not running yeah well not like yeah Oh I thought you out like music reverberant wrapping up no I'd love to I'd love to you know so Spirit rapper is mediumship that's that's a very this is very telling I by Insane Clown Posse are ya Slipknot there we go but I I believe that we the Consciousness can survive after death there's a school called Arthur Findlay College in England and you can go there and trained to be a medium why you'd want to

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I don't I don't know it's very exhausting he imagined shutting down your whole system going into an appearance reaching the other side having that entity come through the other side use your body yours your fluids use everything and then abandon you after and then just go you it's exhausting exhausting but my family research mediumship and I wrote Ghostbusters based upon you know it's just our family interest on the fox the fox sisters you're all is Esther's you should get them up there's a picture of them foxes in 1848 they were lying in bed and their new house near Hinesville New York and all of a sudden this kind of wrapping started terrifying them they thought it was confined just to that house in Hyattsville but they managed to take it around they and when they went to Rochester it happened in houses when they went to a theater it happened in front of three four hundred people and they eventually they toured the world with this act they called it The Peddler and he was someone who was killed and murdered and buried in the house and the basement as John Edwards of hoser here pop off there they are Johnny

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words I looked him up at then come up necessarily I was they were all they were all and they went around the world tipping tables and and and look at them that's a drawing than any real people they never existed all they did they did they were they were and they were very well scrutinized Maggie and the end of her life said no we were we were producing we were producing these reverberant rather have a head well is that is that them well I know what points that that's not out of my realm there's something about mean-faced ladies from like the 1800s of scare the shit out yeah there's the there's the cottage there's just such a hard time to be alive that's the cottage that had occurred in and you know they said it was the Ghost of The Peddler that live there was murdered in the basement and the look down they did find some bones but every time they tried to build the groundwater a big for the bones the ground water kept filling up anyway Maggie at the end of her life said no no we were faking it I was creating the raps already said she was Maggie said she was faking it but she said I was creating the raps these reverberated

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and concert Halls right with my knees and my Knuckles you know I can crack my Knuckles maybe in my knees but you can't make up they were slapsies that were wrappings and and then and yep and then she recanted it and said the Skeptics you know made me do it I was talked into it there was so much pressure on me and in the end of her life she then recanted her recantation or her retraction of it but very convincing that was the origin of spirituality people were looking for a new religion you got Mormonism that had come in in the 20s you had all kinds of protestantism that area of New York was called The Burnt Over District because the preachers had all been through their people were believing in all kinds of different religion they were looking for something new and spiritual spirituality and spiritualism gave them that but you know I've had I've had people contact me that have passed and dreams I've never seen a ghost I've never you know experienced that but I do believe the Consciousness survives after death II do believe that

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it's an interesting idea there's no evidence that it doesn't you know I think that reincarnation is also a fascinating concept that's repeated in many different cultures and I wonder why you know there's a great Tyler Childers song called born again and it's it's about things living and dying and being reincarnated in different times I and I think that's very attractive to people the idea that our physical body is one thing but the spiritual body is something entirely different well I think that you know IA theists and attractive it is attractive atheists are never going to believe that they're not going to accept that it's hopeful it gives us a little hope and after all you know the Cure lian's they who's that they were a Russian research research group they're famous for the experiment where they the kirlian photography K IR L IA n and you want a little Citrus they they

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a graft a woman she sat there and she was able to blow smoke and to a fishbowl and shape the smoke in the Fishbowl so here are some kirlian images they have but they photographed or has and they did photograph they did you know 21 grams is supposed to be the rate of the weight of the soul and they photographed a guy dying and they claimed to have photographed his Aura leaving his body yeah now all these claims is there a photograph of this photograph of her I don't know atomic weight of the Soul 21 Grams and of kirlian photo of dying man I don't know but there you saw the or has the photographs there why would the soul have wait if it doesn't have a physical embodiment well energy energy mass energy what electricity doesn't have any weight does it what's going on well I don't know if it that it acts as a certain Force there's there's certainly a force for there's God that's such an interesting question but mass is what right what reacts to scales gravity yeah right I mean well

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electrons you know if there's a mass there or there's an atomic mass atomic weight any one gram seems like a lot it does it does seem like a lot yeah fat-ass soul but but the Killians were yeah they were they were that that would be a fat soul yeah member they made a movie about her into everything man you're into ghosts you're in the Bigfoot you're into aliens UFO abductions everything well it's entertaining I'm an Entertainer it isn't it enough that I feel like it already and you remarkably sane for somebody always all of these different things aside their head I don't know my family would maybe say not but she's not pot you know I am allergic to terpenes I love the Cannabis story I terpenes are an oil that that's it you know it's in everything you know it's like lemon and pot terpenes yeah we've what you what if you have good pot and you're smoking would buy what you're smoking of the chirping that's what makes it that's what gives it its power terpenes give pot its power while it's part of the element that contains THC

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well 1300 it's an oil terpenes is the is the is an oil that's that that's in there in all in all marijuana you have the cheer allergic to marijuana I'm allergic to the terpenes the cannabinoid I my dad is on the cannabis oil right now to go to sleep he's 97 years old I everybody has a dad yeah everybody has can connect cannabis cannabinoid receptors in them it is a tremendously healing thing there's the terpene this is a chart yeah cool chart yeah they're trying benefits of droppings yeah so so somehow it all that stuff yeah look at now you know and different breeders to put something my my partner and friend Jimmy Belushi has a farm in Oregon he grows it and he's researching it isn't dirty drug addict it's up there selling drugs to people Jim Belushi pushing trucks well it's legal now in or other Jon Helen trucks well the point is that if John had been a pothead he'd be alive today sure because she died of a cocaine and

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and when heroin ball the ball injection he if I had him smoking pot there there there in the vineyard like you know back then he would he would be alive today so I believe narration of comedians or potheads well you know what I hear Seth Rogen's office at Columbia Pictures had to be D fumed and de fog when he left but by gave him Stoner the Year award one day yeah it won the with one of the High Times Awards yeah I presented him what can happen at cannabis is tremendously valuable it we're finding it with our fervent if you take the THC out and put the CBD in there that that's great for arthritis and on and I like to smell a weed doesn't bother me allergic to that's just it just it just bothers me a certain go to an hour just to get that cured well sure sure so I rely on the on the on the beverage and about psychedelics if you're right psychedelic experiences oh yes I've taken acid and psilocybin and masculine yeah you ever had any of some sort of encounters while until it

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Ivan one of the things that makes me more more open to the idea of extraterrestrials is some of the experiences that I've had on tryptamines you know particularly dimethyltryptamine but also psilocybin is that's wig but damn he goes way back for me that goes back to high school how long back is that when he met the DMT I mean well some of his year and a half in a controlled situation yeah tell me about your experience I trolled be interested in some kind of a little speedy this is that's a DMT tattoo that's a DMT model okay yeah I've got a bunch of them that they're fighting it's healing for mental health or finding that that has it has a great effect as a palliative profound alleviation of anxiety there you go it transforms your perception of where you stand in the in the world and it's a absolute ego dissolver you are you are confronted with experiences that

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defied logic and one of the things that this is interesting one of the things that showed me away from UFOs was DMT because because it was so profound it was so crazy that if a UFO landed right in front of my house and be like yeah it's not DMT though because DMT was a completely different dimension and there were things there then one of the things that's you are wearing a controlled environment with friends you are yes yeah yeah but one of the things we did we were nature where you seated and house in my house and not sure how much houses we take three giant he mixed up stuff I can't tell you that's not what that's not something you can write down your Sci-Fi show for talking about aliens no no that's right DMT has some there's some prejudice against it and you can't get that at the drugstore it's in thousands of plants it's literally in almost every plant nature in fact the one of the universities in Israel believes that it was responsible for the burning bush that Moses government end

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remnants from yeah they think that burning bush is actually the acacia tree and the acacia tree is Rich and DM tenant it bursts into flame and he inhaled Vapor exactly they think oh God but they think that this is just a problem with translation is that this what this idea of the burning bush like oh there was a burning bush well maybe or maybe they figured out a way to extract the dimethyltryptamine from the acacia tree or this bush Acacia Bush as well and that they took this small amount of dimethyltryptamine from this fire and inhaled it and had this profound religious experience like I've experienced like many people who

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parents that have taken it and I think that one thing that happens when you do this is you're confronted with entities now I don't know what these things are but they seem to be communicating with you and they seem to be talking to you and they seem to know everything about you so the question is like is that really your subconscious is this is is this you know what you know about yourself stripped down to some very bare raw form and then confronted with these psychedelics that perturb your your visual cortex so they provide you with all these Intense visualizations or is it a chemical portal to another dimension there's were they effulgent beings like being where the way I described is their complex geometric patterns made out of love and understanding and that they're communicating with you sounds like you know HP Lovecraft was a wonderful writer and and he describes in my machine no that was HG Wells by HP Lovecraft he wrote the Cthulhu the the Dunwich Horror and

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books about Kathy try to look to and he be kind of you know walked out of his life and disappeared from his family and all that but did he go well he kind of went out for cigarettes and kind of never came back but no one ever found him well no I think they found him but he had vanished for a while HP Lovecraft maybe look up grave or desires but but you know he he wrote about geometric shapes he wrote about inter dimensional geometric shapes and and getting to up a space where you saw the universe in terms of geometry and diamond-shaped things and multipath not you know multi patterns and colors and you know the artist Alex Gray you know I don't see Alex Grazer beautiful artist I mean amazing amazing guy and he all of his stuff is tryptamine based artwork pull up some Alex Gray stuff so he could see it it literally when you see it you go oh mm that I recognize that I recognized the the how long was your Voyage all of them are about 15 minutes to 20 minutes long

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depending upon this is all Alex Gray style beautiful yeah pull up the one with that one down on the very bottom in the middle the one Curtis called yeah look at that that's very similar to what it feels like when you do dimethyltryptamine and Alex is had wow uncountable number drops a little purple Barrel right down just looked at that I'd have a nice afternoon exactly yeah well a lot of the think the most profound psychedelic experiences are the compounds they mimic normal human neurochemistry like dimethyltryptamine is it's a natural occurring compound in the human brain it's produced by your liver your lungs and there's a lot of evidence that least in mammals its produced by your pineal gland which is literally your third eye that is that's like I did DMT way back I think I was in high school or something whoa you know something and I think I was out of motorcycle ice race or something about doing it so that was uh motorcycle I

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Streisand DMT yeah they're living on the edge in high school man these goddamn that's what they you know motorcycle ice racing you get you get the you get all the small bike like a Jawa see Zenia and you put the metal rims but that with the studs and then you race around the ice I never did it but I saw it and I think I was that's why I went to my my my my my friend said they take one of these will have a better time so I didn't see any beings but well the race was fun take one house for Ali how did you take it he said it was a pill was a cap that doesn't work no no been ejected yeah well no you need to freebase it's he's all Smoky is all right your body presented was a cap Heap gave it to me in a hole like the size of a horse cap right maybe it was horse drinking and never knew your be said it was DMT it's not well if it was it doesn't work because your body produces monoamine oxidase and the only way the DMT Works orally is if you take an MAO inhibitor this is what Ayahuasca is my denial ask ya see Ayahuasca is

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with the the indigenous people the Amazon a figured out is how to take DMT with Harmony from the plants right and harming is a naturally occurring MAO inhibitor so that's how you can take it orally it's also why the experience is not as intense but it's longer and many people find it more spiritual because you can relax Jimmy's gone to the experience you understand they asked but this is not in a capsule form you would he get he dosed you up with someone else at all yeah I don't know yeah I know I guess I was something else who knows that knows could have been silicide well psilocybin converts in the body to something very similar to DMT the DMT is the chemical compound is n and deep dimethyltryptamine but something happens in the body's production of DMT or the body's breaking down of DMT where produces something called 440 locks E&M dimethyltryptamine this is out of psilocybin so maybe he gave you psilocybin pills this is real common that's real job could be but

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golly if I were to take psilocybin IDT timing I just eat the mushroom yes a lot of people take them in capsule form though so they can get exact dose remember sprinkling it on my cereal one somewhat yeah and then going to deliver the mail yeah my friends argument peanut butter and jelly sandwiches he just I am I ate a bowl of psilocybin and then I went and picked up my mail truck and yeah I was I was a Royal Mail career oh gee that was an interesting morning did you get everybody's mailed oh yeah it's fast all right what but that's one of the things that made me more open to the idea of extraterrestrials but more closed off to the ideas of these stories that people tell because I felt like the stories that people tell we're so crude it was almost like they were trying to fax immolate this real experience they were trying to recreate it in their mind and then the other thing about these abduction experiences is that almost all of them happen at night and a lot of them happened while people are asleep and

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during sleep is when they believe your body is generating dimethyltryptamine they believe that DMT is also responsible for dreams but you know the Linda criteria case pretty compelling she comes out of the apartment she's grabbed by an orange orb and then without on was this this was in the evening early on and that's the thing the Nile but there were two witnesses from the brook for Witnesses from the Brooklyn bridge to United Nations security officers and a judge in New York state judge that saw the whole thing they saw her being abduct they saw her being slipped suck through her window in the orb and plunge to the each with really River yes but apparently they told the same story they were know they were together in the car and they saw it on a judge and New York State judge sought he's independent he's independent so he came forward as well once once it started to come out and these two guys went to the apartment where Linda lived that wasn't a real name and of course she was freaked out that someone would come in and talk to Chief there was a while before they were able to get her to talk about it it is possible the thing about it is that if these were unique occurrences that only happen once every

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ten years or something like that very rarely and it did happen and you were left with this memory in this this thing go try telling it to people that haven't experienced it good luck good luck getting them to believe you need people just like you experienced trauma a car accident yeah people around you who love you to listen to you and yeah I believe you and I want to help you write and ruffle is a lady who helps with abductees and there's a you know there's there's some psychiatrist who deal with it you know yeah well it's a that's the John Mack thing right John Mack who was a he was a retractor psychiatrist and he was very pragmatic reasonable person and started these he was dealing with these people that were having these traumatic experiences and was trying to break them down I believe it was hypnotic regression that was the initial tool right and through that he sort of sort of started piecing together these people independently had remarkably similar stories right wasn't him sleep was it hypnagogic juice

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injured in 20 million people in this country alone if 100 people have these experiences good luck getting those other 399 20 million people listen to you they're not gonna listen to you this is why I'm I've tried to be open minded I think if you want out to the local mall and when it said had you know what our UFO is yes have you ever seen one know the only one who's ever seen one yes I think you if you went to the out to the outer perimeters there it's perhaps yeah it's perhaps no I'm not that's look that's the importance of Skeptics it is but you know these guys who come on like Michael Shermer and other people and and Philip class they come on and they try to debunk these UFO stories but they don't have their facts straight they don't they don't haven't done the research they haven't studied these cases they come and they just blankets say it's not real if Michael has never met a conspiracy

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a lot of debunk right the only thing that recently came out with was that he thinks that Jeffrey Epstein might have been murdered I was like whoa how're ya might be kissing such so far to believe it out about range of believe know but it has to go that far that's to go that far where a guy is on suicide watch and they go I don't try to kill yourself again and then leave him in the jail cell with a 4.5 it was a joy ride him they kind of kind of let him do what he wanted to I think they can I think they'd let him I think they let I kill himself I think they are the mighty glad him they let him or they might have killed him yet a broken neck hmm that's true that can yeah random jackets true that's right when you adjust asphyxiation that's right that's right yeah yeah well if anyone deserves to die that Mo food it yes yeah if everyone's telling the truth I believe you're right yeah it's the whole story of UFOs is so interesting it's so interesting because the Fermi paradox

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Ox because this concept that if there are these species that exist in these infinite number of stars and infinite perhaps even infinite number of universes we really don't know are limited perception of what the the actually Multiverse office yeah physicists refer to all the time Neil Tyson we will refer to the multis short happily and comfortably well he also will refer to the concept that not only is the universe infinite but what Infinity truly means is the real version of infinite is not just it's really big but it's that it's so big that there are an infinite numbers of Dan ackroyd's Joe Rogan's and Jamie Vernon's in a room and there's an infinite number of versions of this conversation that we're having that's right there was a philosophy died of a philosopher a few years ago he believed that everything that you think like if I think okay I want to go steal a Cadillac well in another dimension I've stolen that Cadillac and I've done that yeah you know and he was he believed that everything was

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I think can become reality in another dimension and does become reality in another it's there's so many different possibilities it's impossible for our puny little brains to wrap our heads around I had Nick Bostrom on who's a philosopher who is famous for his work on simulation Theory and the concept of artificial intelligence and sentient artificial intelligence and he was freaking me out yesterday this the one where he was talking about essentially it's more probable that you are in a simulation then you're not a simulation and it was so hard looking around your studio here on this play I was this is a simulation I mean I you I will not divulge what I saw in this incredible Warehouse here but the greatest Jim I ever seen the greatest workout space so I feel like my whole life doesn't make any sense so if my life anybody should believe in a simulation it should be me yeah well II met her wonderful simulation here today I thought yeah this is great yeah I know

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look you know I Human Experience it's just wonderful well how we wake up in the morning human identity yeah you know the electrochemical of love just the our ability to communicate our ability to see friends in the beautiful feeling you get when you hug a frigid just pheromones is it just chemical electrochemical is it no more yeah that's right and love was what should drive us we are here to give and receive love and once we figure that out you know the world is going to be a lot better we have to if you don't have that everything else is horseshit you can have a hundred million dollar house in a private jet and if you don't have love you don't have anything you're missing the the key ingredient that's right now it's like having cement but not having water that's right you know it's right you have you have the mix but you don't have the water yeah you have nothing you ain't building anyhow motherfucker yeah I know and you know we Whip and unfortunately there's so much lack of love in the world for other people yeah there you know and there's so many people that want to instead of propagate love they want to propagate anger and they want to propagate

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hate and it's so easy to do and so many people are dissatisfied by their own existence that they want to do that but they don't understand but that by doing that you are perpetuating this whole terrible cycle that you've been caught up in yourself if you go out there hating on everybody and being shitty to everybody and throwing all this anger out there in the world that you are literally poisoning yourself there's a there's a wonderful quote about jealousy that I think also applies to hate is that it's one of the rare things that is ineffective on the person who's your target but works on you instead like if you're jealous if your GIF years a person out there like oh I wish I was living her life and you're angry at her like you it's not hurting her it doesn't even affect others like you dancing in the Wind You Feel the poison your poisonous you piss in the wind that would that piss going to come right back on yeah it's just hard for people to understand that there's techniques and their strategies and there's philosophies that can help

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you steer Through This World With a happier life and that that that is a big part of it a big part of his embracing love and friendship and camaraderie and be nice to people and I think it's so much easier to be nice and to me mean yeah it's hard for some people because they're not even nice to themselves well self-love is where it all starts yeah you don't like yourself you ain't going to do too well yeah anybody else and you know sometimes I wake up in the morning I don't really like myself for what I've done the neck the day before or in the past but you know in the end I got a love myself enough to get up and get going and yeah just don't keep going it too much this wild Crystal vodka no no everything in moderation hey can you fall in love with a vehicle I got you a copy yeah man I brought you a Hemmings later Motor News you know this book can't read that thing I'll go crazy and start buying no no that's like me too but what's your dream car like I know you got that beautiful Land Rover up their last Cruiser I have a lot of cars what like a few what yeah what yeah what kind of cars do you like I mean well I love American muscle car so

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my favorite okay yeah 60s those are my favorite like Dodges and I'll I have a 65 Corvette that I love to death of a 69 Nova that's being built oh yeah and um my friend at Inova a my friend had a 490 Ford Fairlane GTA splitter grip that was great he had a Camaro 454 Camaro nice yeah that was fun man I like I just think there's something that happened during the 1960's yeah there was like this this incredibly potent moment in the universe where this part of the world Iacocca well not just Lee Iacocca because I was Chrysler it was also formed and it was it was Chevy there was but the mustang was like yeah yeah yeah but what's he Chrysler know he started with the Mustang but he went to Chrysler know the muscle cars of them is Thomas Lee iacocca's right right that's the Super Bee and the Darby yeah she all do this Carroll Shelby the Super Bee that was so much that was so much fun though barracudas those barracudas there was yeah but

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but the the point to me is that there was something that happened during that time with American automobile manufacturers whirring they had come up with designs and they were influenced in a way that they created these iconic images that if you looked at a 1960s car those 1960s cars are so incredibly valuable and cherished whereas late 1970s you got a 1979 car nobody gives a fuck about that car like in 10 years the cars went from being amazing to dog shit the 70s were pretty bad for automobile Haiti's to they hit a blip they had this especially American muscle cars they hit this blip and then during this blip they created Camaros and Dodge Chargers and Shelby GT500 so they just happen to see young people bought into and loved and not today you can't get a young person to even go to one her showroom the people who were listening to your show and

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I would say 80% of them are in taxis are Uber or buses they don't care about cars yeah that everything is interesting right I mean people live in New York City I have friends who live in Manhattan they born and raised they don't even know how to drive all my kids didn't get their licenses to live when the 20s here's a 1969 Dodge Dart GTS they want 77 Grand for it that's they're very valuable I know they're really really valuable do you doing with that magnet why'd you bring that because I know you love cars I want to give it to you do you have any cars oh sir sir I told you got my father got me into this you know so I think my favorite like my favorite car that I have is a 1932 Pierce-Arrow 1604 limousine this is the car that and it's been untouched I basically found it in a barn and I've never touched it the Pierce arrows were built between 1908 and 1909 with that all the Pierce-Arrow Pierce-Arrow Museum Buffalo New York pierc 69 Pierce are no it's 32 32 ouch

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okay so off so Pierce-Arrow made cars between 1908 and trucks and bicycles between 1900 and 1930 89238 they've got bought by Studebaker what happened in the 30s they began to build these big luxury coaches in the 30s in the depression to compete with Packard and Rolls-Royce and Graham page and all the other big companies that were out there the White House always had pierced arrows White House motor Fleet will show the Pierce arrows on the Pierce Arrow is beautiful because it had you know the bullet head lights that are on most old cars from the 30s the Pierce-Arrow has the headlights fused into the fender like sculpture you see there they are you see how the see other Fender is fused in it's like part of the car and so I have a 32 1604 R j-- Edgar Hoover had those that's like Bonnie and Clyde type car looking oh yeah no I need the stops I need the top some Auto you know a hundred round drum you know anybody take one of those and put like a modern suspension many times but I've kept mine original it's never been touched you see the way the headlights are

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that's right into yes I have a 32 it kind of looks like that it's green and all beaten up and yeah they're pretty car so that's that's my kind of those are pretty but they don't resonate with me well I like it's a V12 it's an Allison V12 the same engine that they had in the and these P-51 Mustangs that doesn't mean that I don't appreciate it it's like I don't have any I don't lust for them like a 1971 Barracuda I lust virus yeah that's in there yeah get excited so I like that carve a little Bentley a little 48 Mark 6 Bentley's got an overhead valve 6 in it it was built at the end of the war you know to kind of get England back into production I like that car but my regular everyday driver and this will be completely boring to most people on the planet

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I have a 2011 Ultimate Edition Mercury Grand Marquis luxury sport four-door sedan okay that's like what's that the New York Times said when when the production of the of the big Ford's were discontinued the big Grand Marquis Wen they were discontinued in 2011 they went out of the out of the out of business they stopped making them the New York Times said you've always liked one but you never really wanted one well I found two of them in Upstate New York and they used to be and the I found them and I looked I was driving in Auburn New York and I saw I was whipping by in this town on my way down and I saw these two cards sitting there with snow and I looked I like that Grand Marquis so I found out about them

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bottom found out they were both equipped by the US state department motor pool for diplomatic career they had lights and sirens and him and they had work done on the motors I'm on the 401 and Toronto a Mercedes you know 300C will pull up behind me and want like want me to move over and say okay geriatric driver in the old Marquis move over and I just go and I'm gone with this thing that big V8 no chip in it there it is that's it that's my car yeah that looks like a government car if that was done yeah override check my paperwork yeah I know that that and that's got the beautiful minor black and it's good to beautiful VA and it's got the engine works that's fine regular drivers kind of funny I see you drive one of those oh yeah it's just total sleeper Total Sleep yeah I pull up the lights Corvettes to look at them and I'm like take them know probably in that thing and I think they're not funny yeah that is file of the old Packard's in that so you like the muscle cars yeah I like more intense I'm wearing a Tesla t-shirt have you ever had

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test yeah I got one out there oh they're beautiful I love that guy what a Visionary what a man man I mean come on he went to Queens University in my hometown yeah Kingston Ontario Canada Penitentiary capital of the country he went to Queens University which is like your Harvard or read or Yale and he went there for two years so whenever I've never met a lawn but I'm going to sit down and talk to them about those Kingston winter he's a great guy yeah his car is the most Preposterous lie fast car I've ever driven in my life what she got me driving stupid well the doing the thing that I have out there I have a Model S oh I'll keep 100 D oh yeah it is the most ridiculous car I've ever driven and makes other cars feel dumb I have other cars that I enjoy because I love engineering I love cars I just love them I've always loved him since I was a kid but that Tesla makes them all look stupid they're all dumb that car goes 0 to 60 and 2.4 seconds it makes no sound it transcends it

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moves through space and time in a different way that's punches a hole through the life itself just not brilliant it's there he's just the average everyone I had a friend who had one in Toronto that's a no and the driveway Dynamic toy he took me to wish we weren't lick it up I'd give you the keys to mind there's apt yeah no we don't drink we have drivers today know they zap through that yeah you need to drive one you need to drive mine you know my wife would love one because she loves you know she's an environmental activist and that she needs to get one the problem is that she loves her laptop so much that if that big screen in the uh-huh Tesla yeah that big screen yeah I think she'd be on that more than that she would snap beautiful map well I know there's love there's a lot of other stuff covered breakfast on that thing and Butt-head games you can play on when you part know when you're when you're driving to get a park one let's do it but the guy who have my friend he has a Tesla there in Toronto there

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and he said he he programmed it in downtown Toronto and it drove them to Kingston City Hall and parked in from the city hall even have to look at look at he was working on his laptop table well that's the thing that guy's an asshole you need to look Kids jump in front of your car I need to be well yeah I guess that's where too much Reliance on that you need you definitely I mean that's what John other vehicles do you have a 69 Camaro oh yeah I have 2007 Porsche 911 like you like a pie performance car that's what I got with that Ford that I'm driving it's just it's just beautiful yeah and I love I just love cars I love always loved them then one of my favorite things in life I like looking at them I like I watch videos on cars even if I'm not even interested in buying them yeah I just love them no no it's true wonderful I love the duesenbergs man there's two great museum there's the Auburn cord Duesenberg Museum in Auburn Indiana if you've been to Jay's garage yeah yeah my one of my cars

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on Jays garage okay yeah 65 Corvette was on how great a guy as he's my great he's one of the best well I think I told him I was like you are so much happier and more more interesting when you're talking about cars yeah you ever were when you were hosting the Tonight Show he's a great host of The Tonight Show but The Tonight Show is basically if you are running a commercial for other people's records Fest yeah for their movies or television shows that they have coming out and you're there to sort of be the entertaining guy and he was wonderful at it how about he's way better I love the military the old dump our wagons the old Dodge Power Wagons what kind of truck you have I live on a farm so I have a different truck so I have that 95 Toyota Land yeah saw out there and I also have a 71 icon Bronco oh yeah that's out there too you can whip through the desert on those yeah I think one of the greatest cars being made now is the Lincoln Navigator the new oh yeah it's amazing God I mean that's a no one's I'm mainly I used to have the Ford Excursion that was the greatest car ever built by man have The Aviator now to which yes

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our version of Navigator Sensational cars those really good Navigators the new ones they put the Escalade to shame they really do I don't slag other brands but I bet my amazing they're going to come out with a new one Escalades are amazing but when you get a navigator like whoa this is next level it is next level speaking of cars there was a great old Cadillac and

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Once Upon a Time in Hollywood did you see oh yeah we're talking about the other day I've had quite enough no I have it I met him at the comedy store though this is one of the great filmmaker this is amazing guys going to win best picture I'm a member of the academy are you my view yes of course yes I'm sure I think you voted on you do you regret no not really I'd support my people in an industry that I can tell you right now and I'm going to get in trouble for this that that's my vote for best picture right now a movie it really what a superior there it is look at that Beast yeah that old cattle that's an amazing car man and how great are those performers I can't wait for Brad Pitt's new movie Ad Astra to come out the new space movie that he's doing that look how great were those two guys in that film how many was that cast everything was a mess superb filmmaking and if you know the Manson story it's all at more but so ain't well I don't want to give any spoilers wear it no that's not but it's one of those movies where you think something's going to happen and it's something entirely more magical happens yeah Brad Pitt is like just

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just Supreme house design our DiCaprio as I know that always but this is just yeah these are Masters yeah and I love to watch them work II love I'm not in the picture so much anymore we've got the Ghostbusters movie that we're working on now and I will be have to be performing a not but what is the deal with the new Ghostbusters movie so the really good there was no the one with all girls great film and then really good film those girls were superb but I should have been sitting there as a producer watching costs a little more we you know Paul feig and and I and Ivan we had our little conflicts there were things that we thought that we didn't think would work why shoot it why spend the money but you know he's a director you got to we got to have faith so there was a little conflict there and I've spoken about it before but all that's in the past I think he made a great picture with the girls I love it I think they're all great and it really you know he treated the movie with with a tribute kind of Legacy respect and and there were some great new Spirits in there and the girls were great now Ivan Reitman son Jason has written a new movie called

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I've got balls going to be Ghostbusters the third movie that the who's running late well it'll be almost of the original people and then the real stars first movie yes some from the original Bill Murray is going to be in it we're hoping come on Bill yeah we're home come on bail and and then the new the new cast and it's the new cast as well there they are younger to you throw Bill Murray out a window and then oh yeah yeah he played a he played a psychic he played a skeptic psychic and he played Michael Shermer he played yeah I believe Michael Shermer it's rumored that because you would want to throw me no no no I don't throw it away no no come on fake window no no no I have other things I could do to with him I put him in my old farm house for the night and see what was that what was that well buddy so yeah so that's it's going to be great I'm so excited about it and it's just wonderful to be able to you know go back and revisit that

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all that yeah but as you can see thing I love my colleagues I don't do the pictures anymore much and I'm in that way but I love that greatest movies of all time the great collaborator films yes for sure great collaborators and and you know I love watching people work actors on Broadway and I love watching actors work in film and I enjoy going to movies as it's just I'm into other things as you as you heard there was a bunch of comics at The Improv the other night talking about Ghostbusters and talking about holes others Blues Brothers still to this day as one of the all-time great comedy films it really is yeah it's a great movie it's just one of those movies where it gives you this feeling like you just so appreciative that you can watch it like Wow music we got swing walking Ray Charles and Aretha John Lee Hooker y'all yeah no everything's great in that movie it's just great no no we we had good good times on that and it holds up and on you know what here 40 some years after

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John and I purse first performed on on SNL Jimmy and I are still doing it we have a concert in Minnesota come on some Maize and we still do it you know while I figured while I can still move I'll still dance and move and you know I'm not going to sing from a chair like Solomon Burke you know do you like your real interests though like they're spread apart you have a lot of different things going on like you seem to be a guy who's got freedom and Independence which is a beautiful thing to see well I don't have a desk job which yeah I'm happy of I never believed you were pursuing your vodka company you're obviously I mean you're not profiting off of this UFO research but you're obviously balls deep in it it's just fun because it's entertaining and I think it's enlightening and if people want to come to me and get my view of it and I'm happy to present my view you know and I'm happy to hear stories and I'm happy to hear Skeptics comes come forward and tell me why the thing I saw when I was on my motorcycle was not a UFO right why was it okay it was a hydro helicopter

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okay well okay if it was a Hydra helicopter why am I not hearing rotor wop be 400 feet above me what do you what's your take on the the human memory being very fallible there's like a lot of there's a lot of funky show clamoring about it no question about it you could know you know I remember I yeah I remember I wore a striped hers t-shirt on that Sunday and then you look at a picture all know it was solid black of course you remember everything I'm about these I mean how much do you think do you remember about these experiences I remember every I remember every detail of the sightings I've had Vivid because they defy reality / regular everyday things that are not that profound your memory goes no no I try I try of course because we go crazy if we had to remember everything right right right back we picked off the ground three years ago if you had that are just sitting right like what what color shirt was I wearing when you met me you were wearing kind of a whitish gray kind of a corded t-shirt and sweat on

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swear on okay let's close great thermal yeah okay yeah just checking here some of the Cadillacs with the fin so that was how that design of his name was Harley Earl oh the you know the guy who designed it yeah there were two great designers one was Harley Earl those are good yeah and then Virgil exner was the guy with Chrysler and he brought in the fin as well but when I chose the vehicle for Ghostbusters I thought what I need the biggest station wagon made and it's got to fit four people in the front and it's got to have capacity for the so I picked the 1959 Cadillac Miller meteor hearse because it just had the capacity we needed and then the bonus was it just looked so good you know look at that yeah what's the golden year for Cadillac I would say 59 60 when you had the full Finn that that 5960 Finn was just Finn is ridiculous I park in that guy mean what do you know why a fin what they because we with his rocket time we don't want another we all want

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we all want to go to the Moon you know we all want to go to the Stars you know yeah yeah pull up a 1959 an actual 1959 Cadillac Jamie but that's like a not one that was ever made I think there was a concept car yeah wasn't it concept car

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yeah now there they are goddamn it put three bodies in that trunk that's so bad he loves hardtop convertible there with the no pillar post a Dennis such a beautiful car that was back when gas was 13 cents yeah the motor the motors were beautiful in those cars yeah really really not like shit and if you kept the windows rolled down you can get brain damage no look at that thing wow hey Kudos hey to Detroit to De train you better loot yeah and today Detroit's like a booming Town there's all kinds of stuff going on knew what do you think of that building Corvette that mid-engine Corvette it's pretty amazing we've seen that thing I haven't you know for me I mean I get my right leg might fit in that I don't think I get nothing there big man then they have plenty of room inside of them they designed them for taller folks know if I could buy any car if I could I would try any car stop pretending that rich how dare you well well I it's not that it's just like if I can drive the streets and actually be seeing in a car that I felt comfortable in

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are we worried about that but Lee yeah I said why you got that crazy the sleeper you that that's a new Corvette look at this yeah that's beautiful the belt that's the 2019 Jamie that's actually a front-engine car you want to go with 2020 the 2020s in mid-engine car the 2020 is the very first there it is that's the very first go to the red one of the top four what's up with the car now that's the old one I love Amy doesn't know jack shit I like the Bentley Mulsanne the the big one the big Bentley Mulsanne Cruiser love that that one right there Jamie that your cursor was just on yeah that's it click on that but click on that that's a mid-engine Corvette it's a different car see what it is is the engine is behind the passengers in between the passengers and the rear wheel whereas the other ones it's in the front trunk you see the one in the back that's not true I don't think you're going to get the average software engineer at we work for instance wanting to buy that car not because he's taking this the bus and he's done Uber and he's in taxis a

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somehow stop being a pussy how we gonna get it going how are we gonna cry how we get that yeah yeah GM's new Corvette is so powerful it's warping the frame and test America yeah they don't even have the ZR1 or the 06 yet that's the regular z51 model yeah I know I love I love speed you know that speed kills more men than anything he killed Santa means you know no more or no 70% of men between 35 and 65 die from mechanical speed jet skis yep motorcycles this is a to 70% 70% died from accidents holy shit some this is a statistic I read while whether that's true or not we know that we like speed so yeah watch your boats watch your jet skis watch your motorcycles watch your car's my dad that's at my age like I'm 67 now my dad had 65 had to Buick Riviera's whoa too late 1960s 6263 Buick Riviera's

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and he got he only and he was down to like four points on his license by the time I think you know yeah and he loved cars do we got me into the cars you know you leaked is one of those cars that there was a victim of the recession yeah Buick Pontiac Plymouth gone yeah yeah well sure well there's all kinds of names we don't see any more like especially from the 30s you know the Packard the grand page the Diana Moon the southern Rio and like the GTO you know Pontiac GTO is gone you know yeah Plymouth is just gone I mean they still have dodged your people tried to revive it the new Challenger looks pretty good it's kind of very nice yeah back to the Camaro the new Camaros a monster of a car yeah I just I just I've always been a fan of those rumbly engines and those they just they're visceral really exciting yeah no no I love them absolutely yeah how about motorcycles I don't fuck with them I was about to get one I had a bunch of took a bunch of lessons

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and I was going for my license and then two friends wiped out well yeah and get pretty significant accidents in one guy that I know got hit by a car by an old man who ran a red light and T-boned him and sent him flying through the air and snapped his femur know that that would turn you off I've been riding since I was 19 and you're riding La I can ride anywhere by prefer to ride in the country up north in Canada you know where I'm living that's how we live these days half and half here half their house they're kind of a little more little more in the States because of the travel with the band on that but I am there with my dad in Canada a lot and we have the old family farmer the with The cont'd Farmhouse and I've got so hard well let's say let me say that it's there's residual energy from the people who lived there in the past so your footsteps and voices and creeks and doors closing in that and many people have had experiences in it so there's a reason why people don't want to live in a house where people were murdered no one was killed in that Farmhouse bright many people

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ask there but even that weird that weirds people out but absolutely if you have a house where people were murdered and this is why there's laws you have to describe build I had to divulge teacher wasn't because of a murder but when I sold our house in Los Angeles we lived in Mama Cass has old estate an order Wilson Drive and she sold it to Beverly D'Angelo and she's been on the Celebrity Ghosts show talking about the spirits that were in that house what happens of you know jewelry you'll hop around the table shapes will be seen you'll feel a touch on the shoulder that kind of thing least a felt it and I had an experience one night where something got into bed with me I was alone I don't know what went on there but I just figured out well and my you fucked of ghosts I think I was being come on to there but anyway that doesn't clip right house on a quiet fucked a ghost well or it did try to come on to me and I didn't refuse it's see you resist him

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you know what I just knuckled up next to it and went to sleep I phoned with it I did I felt a shape I looked and saw the dressing room and I saw the depression in the mattress and I felt ashamed something next to me like felt at form next to me and I just remember kind of gold no not that night I was working on a picture and went to bed early but I was alone around you're laying alone in bed and you're working on a film by filling them with almost was something that I've been working down at Universal I don't know maybe Dragnet or something like that okay see you working on dragged men alone in bed and then there's like a weight next I feel awake next to me I turn my like up the person is laying I saw the depression there were two yes and I there were two spirits that might have been there maybe Mama cast herself a little she died in London and then there was another guy that apparently a rumor was he died of a drug overdose at a party and they buried him in the Hillside and my daughter saw him walking with a little red-haired girl down the hall once and and and you know we think that that

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that he might have been there but anyway when we sold the house to Beverly there was a right and then California real estate document that we had to sign by law you have to divulge any unusual activity in the house so I had to sign a clause in there that said yes at the beginning of our tenure in the house we did have experience so she bought the house anyway she's still there she's very happy you had to sign papers that said you had unusual activity you sell a house in California you will look in every real estate contract there will be a clause that you must report unusual unusual activity so that is the status a state recognized when if you don't return my calls what's that what if you do acid in the house well I'll tell you about some in visual activity that's unusual activity that you're doing that's not external but the California you know just that the state of California requires that in their real estate documents it's pretty compelling evidence that there's something going on there or compelling evidence that people are paranoid they

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people well I think we could texted me and said ghosts and spirits also have have reality I think you think so I believe so tell me about this thing it you're laying down in bed so you're about to go to sleep sleep and working on Dragnet everything's good and I feel this depression I feel this something and are you asleep yet not asleep no no I just turned out the light and I look and I see this depression and then I go well what am I going to do about this am I going to LEAP up screaming no I rolled over and I just kind of muggle up against it and and went to sleep and I slept like a baby slept like a baby so there's a scene in the Ghostbusters movie where I'm in I'm lying down in an Old Fort and then this ghost hovers over me and in the director's cut I think the belt comes off in the past come down whoa so sex with ghosts you didn't get nervous

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you know I may have been so tired I may have been so resolved and resigned I thought you know what there's no point in panicking there it is yeah those Buster's bedroom scene there we go oh yeah she's looking at some devil so that's you just accept it yes that's right I just accepted as a way to go man mean why fight it spiritual it's true it's true so did you smell it nope no smell just just sent out the weight felt the weight and saw the depression and then when I feel anything on your body I did yeah I felt the form yes I did warm I felt a farm next to me when I knuckled up you just push away I did not did you push against I actually kind of wanted to see what it felt like

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there was something there and I did feel something there as Isabel feminine or masculine I felt masculine Harlow you were cuddling with a dude like a dead biker maybe I don't know it was the guy who died in the hillside I don't know could be I don't want it friendship you know this male or female this in the old days men used to sleep together they've just actually sleep sleep like no well you know there's yes and as I said there's a Ed Davis and Abraham Lincoln was thinking yeah we're partners and they were law partners and they slept in the same bed many times when they were on the road yeah well it's probably cold as fuck back then it was hard to bathroom that part of the world yeah yeah just have a couple blankets and just a heated together yeah so when you woke up in the morning did you feel refreshed or violated I had slept beautifully I woke up one may be better than ever pretty good yeah I'm not I told some people about the experience and hmm when there were people that work in the house and that were there and then that you know the live in and that that knew there was something going on but they knew nothing point of it un a ghost had something happening

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after I told them yeah so they knew something was going on well because they had been they'd hear the StairMaster going by itself and Hammer the exorcise the ghost exercise it apparently out and I hand on the shoulder then the sighting my daughter had then you know other little things like jewelry dancing on the table we knew something was going on in that house so you're a hundred percent in on ghosts I am now tell me about why you're a hundred percent in on Sasquatch because that that one is a that's more puzzling time well just that it's again a Gabriel Reese's story was quite convincing Jeff meldrum's research and amazing I would have talked to her about yeah they weren't enough Meldrum told me he cut his finger off said if he could find out if Sasquatches really take a pinkie off I said if you could cut your finger off to know that Sasquatch is real would you do it he was which finger I'm like you pinky well he's got casts he's got hair went to Jamie he's up Jeff Meldrum I mean ldr um

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used to be it's in my room he's a he's a you know he's a paleontological scientists at the University of South Dakota but he can also be a silly man sometimes you study things you memorize them you pass the test you but you still Celli well but you talked to him did you think did you feel he was you know hoping that my finger for nobody man I'm not giving up a finger to find out if Sasquatches real that's crazy you know yeah he's pretty devoted to it but it's been you know yet either yak and Yeti story and all the yeti story and then just the round the world just the the sightings that the people have had quite a bars well there was a book called diary when Alaska housewife it was about a woman she wrote it she left in the 70s to move from Kansas to Alaska and her husband work on the pipeline and she tells a story one afternoon when she was at her you know her window in the kitchen and she went outside

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the garden so she felt saw something went outside and she smelt this really strong strong musky musky odor and she saw this big huge shape at the corner of her garden kind of disappear into the woods and I don't know their grisly hmm you know sure could be yeah how about Tower where are you on chupacabra not at all I think it's nonsense I think it's a coyote with mange Mmm Yeah convinced yeah yeah I mean they've they've captured coyote with mange it look like demons how about Mothman that's a neat story or shit listen let's go back to Bigfoot let's not you don't believe those kids yeah I think they're full of shit let's go back the Mothman Prophecies the the bridge collapsing they hold yeah I mean I'm not I'm not going to sit here and argue yeah from off man but it's an intriguing story because when you have multiple Witnesses like as far as the UFO I will go back to the Good Foot but the the aerial encounter the the schoolchildren at the aerial School in Zimbabwe in the

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in the 90s you know the story John Mack was working on it no two beings landed in two different crafts and they encounter these school children all in elementary school and now they've come back and they're interviewing them now in their adult time it's amazing how their stories synchronize why would all of them conspire to make something up okay we're doing two different things so the Mothman there were four really credible kids there that the UFO thing is less Preposterous than anything because we are currently sending spaceships into orbit we are currently sending probes to Mars we're involved deeply involved in the exploration of our solar system at least with these robots and drones and things that we can control that that'll all that makes a hundred percent sense to me Bigfoot is interesting to me because there was a creature called gigantopithecus it was an enormous primate that was a

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without a doubt lived it's a real thing it was a bipedal hominid they think it was between 8 and perhaps even ten feet tall was a huge ape-like creature and it went extinct and the reason why they found it is because there was an apothecary shop I believe it was in the 1920s and Anthropologist found a tooth and it's Apothecary shop in China he talked to the people where did you find this he recognized it as a primate to they brought him to the site where they found it and then they started finding other pieces they found bones that that seemed to indicate that this thing was bipedal and this is something that's accepted in the paleontology achill paleontological record this is like when anthropologists look at the history of primates when they look at the they think this is a widely accepted real animal so why wouldn't it was real why was so why did it why do you say that it couldn't have survived and and Beyond it Extinction and exist today and some

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it could have just note there's no evidence that's compelling just like there's an illness fake they think they only Mammoth pretty much the film yes fake the Patterson footage yeah that's or should I say it's fact here's the thing if it looks like a man in a suit no animal looks like a man in a suit there's not a fucking singled correct kangaroo out there that kinda looks like a person in a kangaroo suit I just I just think Gabriel story meldrum's research the book that I read of the woman was what was Gabrielle Arisa story while she was in the camping up there and one of those northern states Washington and I believe she has video footage of my hand is shaking shaking the she made a shaking the shaking the shaking their motor home that they were in yeah hmm she was quite excited to tell me the story and quite Vivid about it she said that it was it was good if there was a small popular try finding a wolverine yeah try finding or a or a or a super one of these super sloths in the South American jungle now

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big sloths yeah they think they're real there's one there's one scientist that is literally risk his reputation and he's his whole fucking credibility's and demise because he decided that he was going to spend his life looking for the giant sloth and these indigenous people of Point him in the right direction and they've recognized that there's you know there's dung that seems to be sloth dung that they found and they're trying to point him towards where these things are and the giant sloth was a real creature but there's no real evidence of the giant sloth is currently alive but the thing is the vast Wilderness of the Amazon rainforest is so impenetrable it would be like trying to walk across the Earth and make a good audit of all the creatures that are on it you're going to run into them and you know we many species are dying on this planet right now for dirt various reasons but there are many that are being discovered we never even knew about before and you know the Northwestern forests are pretty impenetrable to the yes

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Washington Fortune interesting is that the location of the area where if the thing crossed the Bering land bridge and it came into the United States that's exactly where it would be it would be in that Pacific Northwest because that's you know as you walk down from Alaska we've heard the stories of loggers going in there and seeing them or sensing them or you know because they're being driven out of their environment is so hostile acts against logging companies that they think have been perpetrated by by you know those yeah by the the Sasquatch yeah nobody wants to believe in Bigfoot more than me I worked I worked up in the Northwest Territories I was a Flex track assistant mechanic on Tundra crawlers and I was a road surveyor when I was a kid and I work for the Department of Public Works and we were up there and long the nahanni river The Headless River we're explorers would go in and they'd find their heads and they never come back that can befall car yeah find Bigfoot heads no no just that human has human The Headless Valley The Headless River now honey River in a Haan and I but when I went up there

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that was what the survey people there have been guys who've been up there you know you know years before me and they and they said that Sasquatch was a common thing that was spoken about among the natives and among the survey Crews up there to oversee the Bobcat Goldthwait movie Willow Creek no outstanding moving all you can't go through it made a horror movie about Bigfoot Bobcat Goldthwait the comedian made an excellent horror movies and stuff it's really good oh my God that's it's like like like Fire in the Sky thought depiction you would love it oh I will be I love it it's about a bunch of people that go up there to try to replicate the Patterson Bigfoot Film sort of as a lark oh they go up there for fun and they encounter a real sasquatch so Willow Creek it's called yes it's really good I love that I have that laptop that is a 100% believer uh-huh he believes he know I've had some ridiculous conversations about it be nice to go and go into the intense Woods up there and maybe camp for a week and yeah look man though to see something like that a bipedal hominid that is avoided detection for hundreds if not thousands of years

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amazing yeah but they spoke Native Americans is Native Americans had more than a hundred different names between all the various tribes a hundred different names for Sasquatches I really yeah yeah Omar was one of them you know that you saw that American Werewolf in London thing the that is the guy who created that what Pat Rob Baker no no that's Rick Baker Baker I'm sorry Pat McGee who's the special effects Guy created the one for me but Rick Baker designed it originally but he made a Pat McGee made a movie called oh mop was it called oh ma Primal scream see if you can but it's basically a horror movie about Sasquatch and you know it's it's incredibly compelling to people yeah let us this is enormous primate that's been avoiding detection living in the forest Legends among the indigenous people say that they sometimes grab children and take them I think that's because it used to be a real thing that's what I think I think that's because if we all agree in scientists agree

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at this gigantopithecus was a real thing if that is the case then it's entirely possible that one point at one point in time human beings were in direct contact with them on the regular basis and those stories been passed down through generations every generation the real question is are they still here because the people that are telling you these stories like when we talk about people in North America it's widely accepted that most Native Americans they share a lot of genetics of people from Siberia because Siberia is what's close to the Bering land bridge to come down these people eventually many many many many many thousands of years migrated into America and they have so those are people that would have been in contact a hundred thousand whatever years ago but they don't know they know that these teeth that they found from gigantopithecus indicate that it the at least a hundred thousand years ago they were alive does that mean they were alive 50,000 years ago very

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but like a homo floresiensis you know that the Hobbit person they found yeah this tiny little thing in the right right on the floor as Island that thing they didn't even know that was real until the 2000s and that thing existed as recently as I think it was thirteen or fourteen thousand years ago which is incredibly recent yeah and this is a completely new discovery that people found that there was a totally different species of human being that was very small with a chimp sized brain but it was human it used tools and it lived amongst humans so this thing if they know it lived a hundred thousand years ago could have easily live 50 my to live 20 so it lifts 20,000 years ago is here with us today we just know how to go and find yeah but there's there's no evidence of mammoths either yeah we know they were real but there's no like if someone said I saw a man with you'd like where do you have a picture no no but I sensed it like the fuck out of here with your sensing ma'am has I think if you did

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if you put and mount mounted a horrible Avatar Style military let's say incursion into some of the Deep Woods of North West America you might you might get traces but how many think what a horrible thing that would be to be an excellent thing we get footage I know but then you're destroying there's oh mama that's Pat McGee's version of that's great yeah it's like kind of look Groot and yeah wow that's just a weird picture no that's beautiful it's called Primal Rage and neat me that look at that the animatronics yeah see that face right there Jamie yeah leave that that's what's that coming out as it's been out for quite awhile Primal Rage and Willow Creek South I'm get it will Creek is really interesting because Willow Creek is like Blair Witch style yeah it's all like found-footage whole thing like the okay here we are we're in the woods you know shit you'd like it it's real Bobcats a genius is he

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did a great job with it he's it's a really good it's like compelling it's exciting and even if I don't believe in Bigfoot or don't believe it's currently alive just I know too many people that are in the woods all the time I know too many people that are Hunters that are in the woods that have a spend weeks and weeks in the woods and none of them seen Chef they see bears walking on two feet though that's really normal yeah and when you're in thick dense forest bears walking on two feet you see him in the dusk like oh my God I saw Bigfoot I'm convinced and then you really are convinced so then you go back and tell everybody yeah I think you know basically just each individual has to make their own minds up about all of this stuff and if you want to believe it's just like your religion you know II believe in mediumship I believe in the afterlife I've of our Consciousness and that's kind of my religion and who's to say why should I be disputed on that you know I'm glad you believe I'm glad it's people I'm glad this intelligent people that believe in silly shit well

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you know look you know many people believe in the Virgin Mary Kay's Catherine's and that's quite a myth and many believe in the angel Moroni and the gold plates in the magic spectacles and and many believe ins a new you know the scientologists believe so I'm not going to go and say Hey Oh I dispute your belief there were no golden spectacles or there no golden know that was knows a new know there was no Virgin Mary know I respect people's belief and they were less that's what you believe and that's what helps you for you you know and I would never dispute that and likewise I want to be just at respected for my belief in spiritualism and mediumship and I think there's there's a religion and skepticism as well I think there's this there's a an Irish thing that go for it yeah but is you know I'm saying that there's a tendency to just try to dismiss everything hmm as being as it like well believe the official story of every single thing you know why that's good because that empirical view will be able to sort out the fake stuff The hoax stuff from the real stuff if people of real

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scientific minds and real you know inquests there go into it that's what's going to that's what's going to sort out what's real and what isn't yeah Dan Aykroyd you're a beautiful human being thank you for being here man all funds pleasure was really a pleasure 1953 while four bucks yours and the Hemmings motor used this is yours thank you and thank you for the Vodka this awesome vodka and your tell everybody how what you could buy this everywhere right yeah everywhere there's the head on Coastal had the main thing about it no additives we don't put the flavor packages in no glyceride no terpenes no sugars at all it's what are you clean and as you saw you had a nice viscous experience it's very very earliest With or Without Really additives its outstanding bar chefs love it because it's the Virgin canvas I've never bought any other bike again how about that well thank you very much for buying the closest I love I love it I love that well we'll have to have to make sure that we had another visit yes indeed really appreciate take care too much Dan Aykroyd ladies and gentlemen bye

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